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helmut

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Houston –0.75 (-127)

The Dynamo are without their leading scorer, forward Brian Ching, and midfielder Stuart Holden, who are with the US team competing in the Gold Cup. They have just put up a 1-2-2 record in their last five matches, but the last four games have been on the road and three of those matches were against teams near the top of the standings. New England has been decimated by injuries this season. Three starters, including F Taylor Twellman, are out and three others are questionable. Midfielder Shalrie Joseph made a momentous comeback last week against Chivas USA, helping the Revolution capture a 2-1 win. But it appears his knee discomfort continues to be a problem. Coach Steve Nicol said yesterday it is unclear whether he will play tonight. The Revolution on the other hand has lost their last three road games getting out goaled by a margin of 7-2. I thought the Dynamo had preformed pretty well in these last four road games with the exception of the game against the Galaxy and they have been playing so well at home. The Dynamo hold a 5-0-3 record in home games this season and only have allowed three total goals. Two of the draws on their record came in the first four weeks when they were not in good form, since then they are on a 5-0-1 run.


Houston/New England UNDER 2.5 (-121)

I think it’s going to be real tough for the Revolution to score a goal today. The Dynamo defense is still on record pace this season only allowing a league best 13 (0.72 GA Average) goals on the season. The Dynamo have held five of eight opponents to zero goals at home this season and last two home opponents Real Salt Lake and Chivas USA were each held to just one shot on goal. With all the injuries the Revolution have had this season it has been a struggle for them to score goals. They are currently second to last in the league with just 17 goals scored on the season. With both Ching and Holden out for the Dynamo this takes away two important players from the offense. The Dynamo defense should still be very strong today.


Los Angeles –0.5 (+198)

The Galaxy has won their last four games and is currently the MLS’s hottest team right now. They just got David Beckham back a couple of games ago and that should make them a much better team in the 2nd half of the season. The Wizards on the other hand are heading in the opposite direction; they haven’t scored a goal since their 4-3 penalty-kick decision over the Minnesota Thunder on June 30. Since then, the Wizards were held scoreless in all three of their games before a recent two-week layoff. Coach Onalfo acknowledged that scoring on Los Angeles — a team that has allowed the fifth-fewest amount of goals in the MLS this year — won’t be much easier. Compounding problems for the Wizards is that they will be without defender Jimmy Conrad and midfielder Davy Arnaud, who are both with the U.S. national team while the Galaxy is nearly at full strength. The Galaxy has done very well on the road this season putting up a 3-1-5 record while the Wizards have hardly been invincible at home with just a 3-3-2 record.


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ZEZO SAYS

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Played 'em all for small. (Didn't get the good #s you got.)
Nice to see you posting here again.
GL tonight.

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I'm fading your Dynamo pick (though at roughly the same price), backing your under play, and maybe would have considered the Galaxy at that price (though laying a half goal on the road in the MLS is fucking brutal I must say).

Houston played a 120 minute Gold Cup game in Seattle Tuesday night. They are back home tonight, but including the Gold Cup they played 7 road games in the last 4 weeks. They are a very solid team, but I'm fading them for now. Will be looking to back them eventually. Possibly as soon as next week.
 
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One big problem with backing the Galaxy in that manner is that they often play for the draw on the road. It is not a coincidence that they have drawn more than half of their road games this year and lead the MLS in draws overall. I have literally seen them get carded for time wasting while up a man on the road in a 1-1 game. Maybe things will be different with Beckham, but that's a big leap of faith imo.
 
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I faded the late steam on the Galaxy and took Wizards pk +106. Good chance at a push here imo.
 
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Originally posted by: helmut
They just got David Beckham back a couple of games ago.


The tricky part is trying to figure out whether the market knows this or not.
 
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ZEZO SAYS

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My book only offered Hou @ -175 (good for a draw, I guess). Ouch. For some reason I liked the UN 2' better, and I know JS about soccer.
Got the Galaxy tho @ +150 so that should be a push instead of a loss I hope (still pending).
The good thing about soccer is it's not so damn volatile as baseball. I don't think you can be up 10 goals early and end up losing by 1!
I can see why a lot of guys play it. More along the lines of hockey, IMO.

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Originally posted by: ZEZO SAYS
My book only offered Hou @ -175 (good for a draw, I guess). Ouch. For some reason I liked the UN 2' better, and I know JS about soccer.
Got the Galaxy tho @ +150 so that should be a push instead of a loss I hope (still pending).
The good thing about soccer is it's not so damn volatile as baseball. I don't think you can be up 10 goals early and end up losing by 1!
I can see why a lot of guys play it. More along the lines of hockey, IMO.


Those must be 3-way lines so they are both losers. Your bets were effectively HOU -.5 -175 (so not close on that one) and LA -.5 +150. You could argue that LA was a bad beat since the KC goal came from beyond midfield, but I'd say the game was pretty even. The ref also missed a PK call that should have gone KC's way.
 
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ZEZO SAYS

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"Wager Type:
Money Line
Outcome:
Pending
Sport / Period:
Americas Soccer / Game
Line:
LOS ANGELES GALAXY 7/25/2009 - (EST)
+150
Pitchers: LOL Why is that in the format?
N/A
* Game Notes:
REGULATION TIME ONLY! (90MINS + INJURY TIME)."

It doesn't say anything about -.5 and it's still pending. I hope so, anyways! Hou was the same way as well.
They're nice if they push but not if you lose outright.
I don't get the -.75 vs the -.5. I'm guessing there is no difference.
Checked the scores and there is no OT in MLS. A lot of draws in the standings as well.


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The Chaperone

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Without spending further time explaining it, I'll make it easy for you. You lost. Move on.

Check out the upper right corner of ESPN's MLS page to see the KC goal from midfield.

LOL
 
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ZEZO SAYS

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OK. I get it... There's a draw line! Thus a 3-way line. Understood.
I still would think my book would state all draws are considered losses somewhere before I make the bet. (I still would have made the bet regardless.) I guess they expect a first-time soccer bettor to know this.
I move on to next game. LOL



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helmut

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LA was clearly the better team.

Got beat on a stupid goal from midfield.

That's the way the whole month has gone.

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Teams should shoot bombs like that more often. It's actually fairly tough for the goalie to defend.
 
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Originally posted by: helmut
LA was clearly the better team.


Shots (on Goal)

KC 6 (2)
LA 5 (3)

Possession

KC 50%
LA 50%

Chap also mentioned LA got away with what should have been a KC penalty kick. Seems to me you've got a case of sour grapes here.
 
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Interesting, somewhat related video:

Best long range soccer goals ever

There are about 4 that are nearly identical to the one in last night's game. Check out Beckham at #4 around the 5:15 mark. There are also a couple epic goalie fails in there.
 
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Originally posted by: PerpetualCzech
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Originally posted by: helmut
LA was clearly the better team.


Shots (on Goal)

KC 6 (2)
LA 5 (3)

Possession

KC 50%
LA 50%

Chap also mentioned LA got away with what should have been a KC penalty kick. Seems to me you've got a case of sour grapes here.


Obviously you did not watch the game. The announcers each refereed to LA being the better team. They were more dangerous and had put forth better scoring chances.

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Awesome video. #13 is the most ridiculous to me, 1:26 in. That guy couldn't hit that shot twice in a hundred with no one on the field. Totally inexcusable for a goalie to allow that angle.
 
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Originally posted by: helmut
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Originally posted by: PerpetualCzech
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Originally posted by: helmut
LA was clearly the better team.


Shots (on Goal)

KC 6 (2)
LA 5 (3)

Possession

KC 50%
LA 50%

Chap also mentioned LA got away with what should have been a KC penalty kick. Seems to me you've got a case of sour grapes here.


Obviously you did not watch the game. The announcers each refereed to LA being the better team. They were more dangerous and had put forth better scoring chances.


Also keep in mind that it's not a SOG if it's wide or high, which obviously it doesn't have the opportunity to go in, but it's possible a lot of their opportunities ended up with misses like that so it's not reflected in the stats.

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Originally posted by: FadeIntoYou
Awesome video. #13 is the most ridiculous to me, 1:26 in. That guy couldn't hit that shot twice in a hundred with no one on the field. Totally inexcusable for a goalie to allow that angle.


Yeah that shot is ridiculous, I wish we had a better camera angle.

The other one that really stuck out to me was the penalty kick that he curves around the line, seemingly with the wrong foot?

I don't know much about soccer so maybe that shot isn't that hard to hit, but it seemed like he put a LOT of english on it for such a low, side-ways shot.

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Originally posted by: The Chaperone
Interesting, somewhat related video:

Best long range soccer goals ever

There are about 4 that are nearly identical to the one in last night's game. Check out Beckham at #4 around the 5:15 mark. There are also a couple epic goalie fails in there.


Im biased but....... here is one from my team that takes some beating.

A lot of the long range goals were against really poor keepers who were mostly totally out of position.

This is against Shay Given, currently one of the best keepers in the Prem.

The view from behind the goal show the bend on the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHYjRmsC1ao


IMHO, here is an even better Norwich goal for a number of reasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt3q8_sxd-o

I was actually there that day. At the time Liverpool were one of the dominant teams in Europe.
Ray Clemence in goal for Liverpool was a fantastic keeper.
It would take something special to beat him from there.

D.


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