Last week I ended my blog by stating that for our first 8 years of gambling the “total casino experience” was more important than our financial bottom line. That is not to say that we could spend lavishly without thought. For one thing, we had a very modest amount of discretionary income at that time, and we certainly weren’t people who would go into debt or tap retirement savings for entertainment options. However, our goal was not to make a profit in gambling but to take reasonably-priced vacations by playing smart BJ and using the slot club benefits and comp system.
As tourists, “living” in casinos for long periods of time, although we played BJ several hours a day, we were always looking for fun things to do when we weren’t at the tables. We both loved to travel, so we would often choose destinations where we could combine sightseeing and casino play. We hoped from casino to casino couponing around town in Reno and then taking a scenic drive down to Tahoe. When we were in Atlantic City, we would leave the casino often to do our power walks up and down the boardwalk and perhaps drive to other beach towns and hit their boardwalks too. Several times we took a side trip by bus to see the sights of New York City, a memorable one over Christmas to see the holiday decorations.
We took a short-term cat-sitting job in Maryland so we could tour the sights in Washington and then found out about gambling in some of the local firehouses. It was run as a “charity” and the food served by the ladies auxiliary was terrific. And the BJ games, staffed by volunteers, offered good rules so we sat down and played. We were very naive back then and didn’t wonder if everything was on the up-and-up since there didn’t seem to be any good oversight much less governmental regulations. After awhile I told Brad I was going to go play poker. I don’t know my thinking at that time to make such a bad move. Unlike Brad, who had played poker his whole life, I had little experience in the game, barely knowing the basics. Maybe the gambling gods take pity on silly amateurs. Anyway, about an hour into this low-stakes Hold’Em game I was in shock when I ended up making a royal flush hand. I tried to stay cool but I think my face probably turned white – I didn’t get any calls on the river and the pot was small! However, I did take down the $500 bonus being offered for that hand. No friendly congrats – the table was full of frowning local old men who didn’t appreciate an out-of-town interloper. Brad and I hightailed it out of there very soon after! It might have been a “charity” endeavor, but we suspected it probably was run by a criminal element.
We expanded our travels out of the country, taking six cruises during this time period, always playing blackjack in the ship casino between shore excursions. We hit Central American and island ports, went through the Panama Canal locks, and then a long Mediterranean voyage visiting many sea ports. We even rented a car and took a long road trip around Europe, where we visited and played BJ in a London casino, in one in Luxembourg, and two different ones in the Netherlands.
However, we spent the most time in Vegas, with longer and longer visits after Brad retired. And in Vegas there was never an end to entertainment options. Since long brisk walks was our exercise of choice those days, we could hit the many casino promotions up and down the whole Strip, like no-fee daily slot tournaments and free pulls on slot machines. With some you would always win something, maybe just a free drink or a kitschy souvenir: keychains (I used to collect these and had dozens), magnets (I still have some of these on the front of my frig), cheap logo hats or Fannie packs. But at times you could snag something more valuable: a T-shirt, a free afternoon show ticket, or maybe a comped buffet. I don’t know how many Sands mugs we picked up as we walked the Strip – probably dozens – so many that all our friends and relatives started declining these “gifts.” And– of course – we always hit the free popcorn at Slots-A-Fun.
I don’t need to mention how important couponing was during those days; I’ve written about it many times. Not only were these a positive play, often a better return per hour than playing low-level BJ, they gave us a break in our long walks and a chance to check out many different casinos. In my first Frugal book, I talk about how we would tip maids and they would save coupon books former guests had left behind. I remember one valuable coupon book that was often found by the maids, because many visitors weren’t going to go off- Strip just to use a coupon. But they gave us motivation to take the coupons and hike from the Strip over to Palace Station several days a week, with one memorable visit when we hit a big payout on the free keno coupon. I also remember Brad telling me we should be “fair” and not just play a few hands to use a VP coupon and then run.
“Okay, we’ll play for a little longer,” I relented.
And then what happened? He hit a $1000 royal flush.
“I don’t think the casino is going to be impressed with your fairness!”
When we stayed downtown, there were never-ending interesting things to do – the ubiquitous promotions like on the Strip and many coupon books that often included free food. One – I think it was the Plaza – had a coupon for a free breakfast – pancakes? – and there was also a coupon that you gave to the waiter that covered the tip! We used to buy valuable coupon books given out freely by the Western Casino from those customers that preferred cash to coupons. One coupon was for a free bingo session. I have always hated bingo – thought it was the most boring game one could play. But free is free and I temporarily lowered my standards, successfully picking up some cash wins!
Another interesting thing we did when we were downtown was to go to court. We’d go to the courthouse and asked a security guard where the most interesting trial was going on and he would point out that courtroom. We enjoyed some pretty good juicy drama!
I never remember using a taxi to get around those days – not frugal I thought – so we would use the bus or shuttles to add new destinations to our daily walks. Once we started to drive from Indianapolis to Vegas to stay long periods, avoiding the cold Indiana winters, we could expand our entertainment activities. We liked to visit companies that gave visitor tours, learning the manufacturing details for cranberry juice, clown figurines, potato chips, chocolate candy, and marshmallows. This last one was popular when the grandkids came to town. Speaking of kids, we spent a lot of non-gambling time entertaining out-of-town friends and relatives.
I could write endlessly on the fun factor in Las Vegas, but I must wrap up this long detour. If you are interested in more of these memories, I talk a lot about our early casino years in my first Frugal book, especially in the chapter “Long Term in Las Vegas.”
I will return to the math in my next blog, reporting how changing games gave our positive expectation a major boost!
The saga continues, excellent and on to reading ‘Part 6’
The courthouse…what an interesting thought!!! Looking forward to your next installment.
Side note!!
New York City bus trip at Christmas. So crowded but such great memories of Macy’s decorated windows and all the the great shopping.
MO
Wow, everyone has such great memories of events they did in Vegas.
There were so many activities (and other than coffee mugs and long walks), but your mentioning getting around Vegas did remember remind me that in the late 80’s there was a shuttle that went to all the Strip casinos…I think it might have been called the “Strip Trolley”? There might have been a slight fee and I think we would usually get on near Slots of Fun. Walking the strip in July at 117 degrees was brutal!!!
Stay safe especially in NV.
Mo
Yes, great stories as always Jean! I’ll never forget seeing you, Brad, the Frugal princess, and your grandkids coming out of the Silverton Buffett one evening about 15 years ago while I was waiting in line…I swear it was like seeing the actual Queen and Royal family! I can’t imagine how different my last 25+ years of Vegas fun would be if I hadn’t stumbled on the teachings of you and Anthony – so glad I did, and I sure appreciate all the tips you guys have shared over the years to help this Canadian stretch his gambling and entertainment dollars while in Nevada! Best of luck to you and Brad in your new home!!! Barry
The free meal plus tip coupon was a Jackie Gaughan thing—the El Cortez had the same thing in their funbooks (and I seem to remember that Jackie had an ownership stake in the Plaza at one time…?). I was always amused at the implication–probably correct–that someone using a $2 free meal coupon wouldn’t otherwise leave a 35-cent tip.
There were several low-budget hotels downtown near the EC–one I remember was the Crest. They would rent by the week and slather you with coupons. You could pretty much eat for nothing, and then you could splurge and have the 99 cent breakfast at the EC or the $2 steak dinner at the Horseshoe.
I lived and worked downtown for about a year. I wrote Keno and made $5 an hour, plus about $3 a day in tokes (only winners toke, and at Keno, nobody wins). That was actually enough to live on if one used advanced couponomy. We would hit Vegas World once a week for the coupon package, which had an EV of about $14. The daily coupon run one could do downtown at any time was worth $5 to $8.
I used to play blackjack at the Horseshoe when I got off shift. I would bet a $1-5 spread, usually won about $20, and always got a steak-and-eggs coupon from the pit boss. Occasionally, I would play 10 cent ante seven card stud at Circus Circus Circus Circus. I won money simply by never playing a hand unless I had a pair.
I was living a lifestyle one level below “frugal”–we called it “scrounging.” But by golly, earning $200 a week before taxes, I actually had more money when I left than when I started. Those were the days. Thanks for reminding me of my extreme couponing days.
It was after reading your first book that my wife and I would walk up and down the strip using coupons from the casinos, but also from the American Casino Guide. Just using a few of these more than made up for the cost of the book and I don’t even know how much we saved using them for the week we would stay in the summers. We would also take advantage of the free slot tournaments, one time parlaying my wife’s $100 free play into over $1200. And promotions were great also. On one pull tab promo I actually picked out the $1000 Macy’s card, one of only two in the entire drum. Good times! Can’t wait for your next installment. All my best to you and Brad.
These journals and stories display how you became (and still are) the Queen of Comps! Wow, Bingo and Poker and Keno…..with wins in each, I think now you’ve touched on all the games available, LOL! You achieved what most poker players long for is that Royal (with a bonus payoff!). Someday for me, but may have to be long after the current crisis passes, i’m not ready to share / touch cards and chips among others until this virus is resolved (with a good vaccine!). Only game you may NOT have tried… the Big Wheel (although you reminded me from previous blogs, my dad loved to try when Stupak’s Vegas World had that SuperSized big wheel…….). And Sands Mugs, who could forget those? and the many free factory tours, I hit a number of them while they lasted. Thanks for the memorable memories and how this actually made recreational gaming ‘more fun’ in the city of endless promotions (or at least where bargain city became known for bargains)–for those that would take the time to find them, as you have written about. Martin