Comments on: An Indiana Trip Report

By: Kevin Lewis

Kevin Lewis — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:31:14 +0000

Your original post said that you had “embraced NSUD.” If the $1 APDW 50-play still exists there, that would obviously be the better play. Assuming 99.96% with PERFECT play and 0.1% comps + 0.05% free play (per the VPFree2 database), you’re playing at 100.11%, or at $200/play (40-play), an EV of 22 cents per play. Assuming 400 hands per hour, that’s $88/hour +EV, 2/3 of which is in comps. In order to realize this return, you have to put in $80,000 coin-in per hour.

I don’t see how anyone with a bankroll of less than several million dollars could fade that kind of action without an unacceptable risk of ruin. I’m not going to run the numbers right now, but based on my experience playing 50-play nickels (peasant that I am), it’s quite possible to lose a huge number of bets in a short time. While your play is nominally +EV, its variance and consequent bankroll necessity is far beyond the reach of us mortals.

By: Spartan Buckeye

Spartan Buckeye — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:37:28 +0000

I assume you selected 40 hands to avoid the likelihood of a W2-G when drawing to 4 of a kind? 4 Quints on 50 play puts you over $1200 and also is approximately the expected number you would hit drawing to 50 hands.

By: Janis

Janis — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 17:53:39 +0000

How did you manage to get a picture? About a month ago I won $9000 on a slot machine and when I took my phone out and started to take a photo, security came running and telling to stop!

By: queen of comps

queen of comps — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:45:33 +0000

Kevin, what makes you think we weren’t playing APDW?

By: Kevin Lewis

Kevin Lewis — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 05:44:26 +0000

Is this game an advantage play? If memory serves, Horseshoe Hammond only returns 0.1%, so you’re playing negative EV exclusive of mailed offers/bounceback, etc., which wouldn’t be all that useful to you. Also: why aren’t you playing their much better APDW, which WOULD be a positive game with its base payback of 99.96? There are very few strategy variations from NSUD.

By: Roger K

Roger K — Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:32:23 +0000

Congratulations! You’ll have to check out the new Horseshoe Cincinnati on one of your trips our way. They have no hotel, but put us up at The Cincinnatian Hotel. Beautiful hotel. Best part about the casino….Entirely NO SMOKING!!!!!

By: david

david — Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:19:26 +0000

Hitting a $40,000 Jackpot just got you “even” for the year? Wow! That is a lot of money to be down just 2 1/2 months into the year. I am happy you won, but I wonder just what that says about the state of video poker now versus years ago before the casinos tightened up the video poker payoffs.

By: james thompson

james thompson — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:36:52 +0000

Congrats….there’s nothing better than getting dealt a big one.
My biggest win ever was getting dealt 4 deuces playing 15 line spin poker at the HRH LV

By: Steve Kallis

Steve Kallis — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 21:04:53 +0000

Brad’s no dummy. He was dealt four wild cards and he already had the fifth wild card……Jean. He is a winner, all around!

By: Thomas Barefoot

Thomas Barefoot — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:48:26 +0000

It really doesn’t matter much anymore, but at one time pro level players were in the habit of holding everything to reduce the slight chance of error. There is no advantage in this game to drawing a card, so why risk it?