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		<title>By: Kevin Lewis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 23:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are times when I think that a realistic calculation of whether or not a &quot;frugal&quot; move is worthwhile might evoke the answer, &quot;not really&quot;. The Southwest move is one I&#039;ve done before--in my case, I received $450 in vouchers for delaying my return by 7 hours--obviously worthwhile, in terms of $/hr. But then, I never used the voucher, and wound up giving it away before it expired--so how much was it REALLY worth?

Similarly, a free play run (when there&#039;s no other reason for going across town) might not be worth doing. The route you described for Brad would be about 70 miles round-trip and would consume three hours on the best of days (especially since he would have to park, go inside, play off the free play, cash out, etc.). A midsize sedan costs at least fifty cents/mile to operate, and I don&#039;t know what you or he consider his time to be worth, but let&#039;s consider that to be a very modest $20/hr---that means that you are spending the equivalent of $95 to pick up the &quot;free&quot; play. That diminishes the value of the bouncebacks in general, and since you are undoubtedly playing mildly -EV machines (since +EV machine players pretty much get nothing these days), the cost of collecting that free play/bounceback/etc. has to be factored in to an overall calculation of whether a play is worthwhile or not. I used to have a threshold for driving 5+ miles to pick up free play, and I felt better about that threshold when I figured out that picking up small amounts of free play was actually COSTING me money. Of course, if you can put that free play &quot;on the back burner&quot;, that makes the detour easier to swallow, as you can save it for when you&#039;re in the neighborhood--but of course, the casinos put restrictive time frames on the free play redemption for the exact purpose of thwarting that strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are times when I think that a realistic calculation of whether or not a &#8220;frugal&#8221; move is worthwhile might evoke the answer, &#8220;not really&#8221;. The Southwest move is one I&#8217;ve done before&#8211;in my case, I received $450 in vouchers for delaying my return by 7 hours&#8211;obviously worthwhile, in terms of $/hr. But then, I never used the voucher, and wound up giving it away before it expired&#8211;so how much was it REALLY worth?</p>
<p>Similarly, a free play run (when there&#8217;s no other reason for going across town) might not be worth doing. The route you described for Brad would be about 70 miles round-trip and would consume three hours on the best of days (especially since he would have to park, go inside, play off the free play, cash out, etc.). A midsize sedan costs at least fifty cents/mile to operate, and I don&#8217;t know what you or he consider his time to be worth, but let&#8217;s consider that to be a very modest $20/hr&#8212;that means that you are spending the equivalent of $95 to pick up the &#8220;free&#8221; play. That diminishes the value of the bouncebacks in general, and since you are undoubtedly playing mildly -EV machines (since +EV machine players pretty much get nothing these days), the cost of collecting that free play/bounceback/etc. has to be factored in to an overall calculation of whether a play is worthwhile or not. I used to have a threshold for driving 5+ miles to pick up free play, and I felt better about that threshold when I figured out that picking up small amounts of free play was actually COSTING me money. Of course, if you can put that free play &#8220;on the back burner&#8221;, that makes the detour easier to swallow, as you can save it for when you&#8217;re in the neighborhood&#8211;but of course, the casinos put restrictive time frames on the free play redemption for the exact purpose of thwarting that strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome back! I found it a little funny that you ziplined in Alaska. My husband and I live in Alaska and he&#039;s going to zipline in Boulder City in October!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back! I found it a little funny that you ziplined in Alaska. My husband and I live in Alaska and he&#8217;s going to zipline in Boulder City in October!</p>
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