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		<title>By: Edward Mehnert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Mehnert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my level of play would be physically impossible while there.... My play is all through online poker and not possible outside NV or DE or NJ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my level of play would be physically impossible while there&#8230;. My play is all through online poker and not possible outside NV or DE or NJ.</p>
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		<title>By: Marti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 06:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the great info.  It confirmed my decision last year to leave CZR.  With their shrinking benefits it makes no sense to play to Diamond or higher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the great info.  It confirmed my decision last year to leave CZR.  With their shrinking benefits it makes no sense to play to Diamond or higher.</p>
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		<title>By: harlin kreplick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harlin kreplick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 23:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just another thing that Silverton has started, besides $4 on VP for a point. Senior Monday win up to $100 slot play is not guaranteed slot play. This week my wife and I each WON a scoop of gelato  ON-line or at the players club is there anything in  writing about this change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another thing that Silverton has started, besides $4 on VP for a point. Senior Monday win up to $100 slot play is not guaranteed slot play. This week my wife and I each WON a scoop of gelato  ON-line or at the players club is there anything in  writing about this change.</p>
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		<title>By: William Wingo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Wingo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see how anyone could accept that kind of open-ended liability. If you played $1 less coin-in than last time, they could bill you post facto for the entire package. And even it they don&#039;t, you still have to pay the resort fee--what kind of &quot;comp&quot; do you call that? It&#039;s like the famous Oriental honor, &quot;the order of chastity of the second class.&quot; 
I also agree completely with Kevin&#039;s analysis; and, like him, I don&#039;t go to Caesars. In fact, I wrote off the entire strip--and downtown--long ago. These days it&#039;s Boyd off-strip, also rapidly deteriorating, Southpoint, Laughlin, and the Phoenix area casinos. By this time next year Desert Diamond West should have its expanded casino open, complete with poker room, and less than ten miles from our front door.
Sooner or later, Las Vegas casino managers will have to deal with the massive customer ill will that they themselves generated. Or maybe the present ones figure they&#039;ll be retired by then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how anyone could accept that kind of open-ended liability. If you played $1 less coin-in than last time, they could bill you post facto for the entire package. And even it they don&#8217;t, you still have to pay the resort fee&#8211;what kind of &#8220;comp&#8221; do you call that? It&#8217;s like the famous Oriental honor, &#8220;the order of chastity of the second class.&#8221;<br />
I also agree completely with Kevin&#8217;s analysis; and, like him, I don&#8217;t go to Caesars. In fact, I wrote off the entire strip&#8211;and downtown&#8211;long ago. These days it&#8217;s Boyd off-strip, also rapidly deteriorating, Southpoint, Laughlin, and the Phoenix area casinos. By this time next year Desert Diamond West should have its expanded casino open, complete with poker room, and less than ten miles from our front door.<br />
Sooner or later, Las Vegas casino managers will have to deal with the massive customer ill will that they themselves generated. Or maybe the present ones figure they&#8217;ll be retired by then.</p>
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		<title>By: TERRY HAILE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TERRY HAILE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Jean: &quot;...our personal list of “Good Casinos.”  Ok I&#039;d like to ask Jean and Kevin Lewis what is this personal list of &quot;Good Casinos&quot; you now play Vp at?  Just wondering as we make fewer and fewer trips to LV these days because of the lousy machine pay schedules and minuscule comps that comes with them.  We really don&#039;t have the time, energy or willingness to go searching any longer.  I do check vpFree2 prior to leaving for a trip but it would be nice to know what casinos the &quot;experts&quot; consider playable right now.  Thanks, Terry and Teri Haile, Post Falls, Id]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Jean: &#8220;&#8230;our personal list of “Good Casinos.”  Ok I&#8217;d like to ask Jean and Kevin Lewis what is this personal list of &#8220;Good Casinos&#8221; you now play Vp at?  Just wondering as we make fewer and fewer trips to LV these days because of the lousy machine pay schedules and minuscule comps that comes with them.  We really don&#8217;t have the time, energy or willingness to go searching any longer.  I do check vpFree2 prior to leaving for a trip but it would be nice to know what casinos the &#8220;experts&#8221; consider playable right now.  Thanks, Terry and Teri Haile, Post Falls, Id</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 05:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the last dozen years or so, CZR properties were one of two (Palms) major places we would play VP. Each of us had been Diamond. With the diminishing perks and the HORRIBLE pay tables on most machines, I believe we are only going to get one of us to Platinum just for the free parking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last dozen years or so, CZR properties were one of two (Palms) major places we would play VP. Each of us had been Diamond. With the diminishing perks and the HORRIBLE pay tables on most machines, I believe we are only going to get one of us to Platinum just for the free parking.</p>
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		<title>By: queen of comps</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[queen of comps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max, here is the link to the 2018 rules - https://www.caesars.com/content/cet-global/total-rewards-com/sevenstars/rules-2018.html.  Probably the 2019 rules will not be on the Website until after Feb. 1, since that is the beginning of the new benefit year.  Probably same situation for Bahama details.  One never really knows for sure about &quot;previous level of play.&quot;  Check with a host who might give you some general guidance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, here is the link to the 2018 rules &#8211; <a href="https://www.caesars.com/content/cet-global/total-rewards-com/sevenstars/rules-2018.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.caesars.com/content/cet-global/total-rewards-com/sevenstars/rules-2018.html</a>.  Probably the 2019 rules will not be on the Website until after Feb. 1, since that is the beginning of the new benefit year.  Probably same situation for Bahama details.  One never really knows for sure about &#8220;previous level of play.&#8221;  Check with a host who might give you some general guidance.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re unwittingly adopting some of their language. Players were &quot;abusing&quot; the system by &quot;earning&quot; comps and then using those comps and not playing any more after that? How is that &quot;abuse&quot;? You earn the comps, you spend them. What happens down the road is a separate issue. If you continued to play on Visit 2, which was comped because of your play during Visit 1, then shouldn&#039;t you earn comps for a future Visit 3? And even if you didn&#039;t play during Visit 2, well, hadn&#039;t you already earned those comps during Visit 1?

I agree that a lot of CSR&#039;s language is about &quot;contingent&quot; comps, where you, from your initial play, have earned merely the POSSIBILITY of future comps IF you play at the same level when you redeem those comps. That isn&#039;t the way Vegas (and, by extension, casinos elsewhere) used to work! You would get comped rooms on the premise that you would continue to gamble there--but you didn&#039;t get un-comped (decomposed?) if you didn&#039;t. Now, those rooms are offered on the PRESUMPTION that you will and MUST continue to gamble there. Quite a difference!!

I never set foot in CET/CSR properties anyway because of their tight VP and general overpricing, but I wonder how many players--like yourself--are getting tired of the constant tightening of the screws and are deciding to go elsewhere. OR--God FORFEND--are now spending their leisure and vacation time at places OTHER THAN CASINOS (kill the blasphemer!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re unwittingly adopting some of their language. Players were &#8220;abusing&#8221; the system by &#8220;earning&#8221; comps and then using those comps and not playing any more after that? How is that &#8220;abuse&#8221;? You earn the comps, you spend them. What happens down the road is a separate issue. If you continued to play on Visit 2, which was comped because of your play during Visit 1, then shouldn&#8217;t you earn comps for a future Visit 3? And even if you didn&#8217;t play during Visit 2, well, hadn&#8217;t you already earned those comps during Visit 1?</p>
<p>I agree that a lot of CSR&#8217;s language is about &#8220;contingent&#8221; comps, where you, from your initial play, have earned merely the POSSIBILITY of future comps IF you play at the same level when you redeem those comps. That isn&#8217;t the way Vegas (and, by extension, casinos elsewhere) used to work! You would get comped rooms on the premise that you would continue to gamble there&#8211;but you didn&#8217;t get un-comped (decomposed?) if you didn&#8217;t. Now, those rooms are offered on the PRESUMPTION that you will and MUST continue to gamble there. Quite a difference!!</p>
<p>I never set foot in CET/CSR properties anyway because of their tight VP and general overpricing, but I wonder how many players&#8211;like yourself&#8211;are getting tired of the constant tightening of the screws and are deciding to go elsewhere. OR&#8211;God FORFEND&#8211;are now spending their leisure and vacation time at places OTHER THAN CASINOS (kill the blasphemer!).</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunady</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hunady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article. We are thinking of using our earned Diamond status in 2019 and not pushing too much play in CZ casinos (just getting to 25000 points to have unlimited access to Diamond lounges) and esploring  alternatives in other properties in our back yard, So. Cal., as to cut back on long travels. My wife got to 56000 points in 2018 and noticed improved offers and better level accomodations when in Vega. Her host called frequently to use the free air flights to Reno or Tahoe. We did fly from Burbank and stayed in Harrahs Tahoe twice in 2018 with an &quot;executive king room&quot; upgrade. We were considering the Bahamas trip, but would be too expensive to do without comped airfare, food &#038; drinks and then the bad playing conditions. Personally I just look to enjoy free top name shows in Vegas and play as good VP as I can find. I use your advise and always do a recon of machines before starting a session no matter where I go. Thak you for the great tips and hard work you do to keep us all updated. Best regards.
John &#038; Liliana]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. We are thinking of using our earned Diamond status in 2019 and not pushing too much play in CZ casinos (just getting to 25000 points to have unlimited access to Diamond lounges) and esploring  alternatives in other properties in our back yard, So. Cal., as to cut back on long travels. My wife got to 56000 points in 2018 and noticed improved offers and better level accomodations when in Vega. Her host called frequently to use the free air flights to Reno or Tahoe. We did fly from Burbank and stayed in Harrahs Tahoe twice in 2018 with an &#8220;executive king room&#8221; upgrade. We were considering the Bahamas trip, but would be too expensive to do without comped airfare, food &amp; drinks and then the bad playing conditions. Personally I just look to enjoy free top name shows in Vegas and play as good VP as I can find. I use your advise and always do a recon of machines before starting a session no matter where I go. Thak you for the great tips and hard work you do to keep us all updated. Best regards.<br />
John &amp; Liliana</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elaine Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sad. But as you often say, you have affairs with casinos, you don&#039;t marry one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad. But as you often say, you have affairs with casinos, you don&#8217;t marry one.</p>
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