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		<title>By: big loser</title>
		<link>https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/frugal-vegas/more-about-the-new-stations-players-club/comment-page-1/#comment-10230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[big loser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This just looks like they are trying to groom their players into what they feel will create a long term customer.  A low player is just not going to generate enough revenue so theyre not wanted.  A high level player  will go elsewhere once they realize they arent going to receive a good level of comps or even a drawing win.  They want the one who will come back week after week and blow a hundred so that they dont think about how they lost.  I really love the great offers I get elsewhere in Las Vegas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just looks like they are trying to groom their players into what they feel will create a long term customer.  A low player is just not going to generate enough revenue so theyre not wanted.  A high level player  will go elsewhere once they realize they arent going to receive a good level of comps or even a drawing win.  They want the one who will come back week after week and blow a hundred so that they dont think about how they lost.  I really love the great offers I get elsewhere in Las Vegas.</p>
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		<title>By: big loser</title>
		<link>https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/frugal-vegas/more-about-the-new-stations-players-club/comment-page-1/#comment-10229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[big loser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just think they should change their ads to WE LOVE LOCALS MONEY.  Enough said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think they should change their ads to WE LOVE LOCALS MONEY.  Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason why there aren&#039;t a lot of &quot;kudos&quot; is that the &quot;upgrades&quot; have been accompanied by downgrades of equal or greater magnitude. The greatest amount of suffering seems to have been inflicted on two groups: the low-limit/infrequent player who would just like the occasional buffet discount, and the medium-heavy player who is now finding out that his play doesn&#039;t get him anywhere near the perks he used to get.

In general, when a casino trumpets the &quot;improvements&quot; to its slot club, that is generally code for, &quot;We just made things a lot worse for you.&quot; This change by Stations, when analyzed correctly, amounts to a wash when considered in context, such as the used-to-be-600-but-now-it&#039;s-1000 pts/dollar rule. It should also be noted that M and South Point (Station&#039;s main competitors for the hardcore locals&#039; market) had slot clubs that were three times as generous as Stations, so Stations&#039; ostensibly tripling the slot club rate, but at the same time introducing all the other downgrades that they did, leaves Stations still well behind other locals&#039; casinos.

Of course, for the advantage VP player, Stations is still the best choice, since a few +EV machines persist there for the time being (and the slot club bennies at the other casinos don&#039;t make up for, say, the difference between FPDW and NSUD).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why there aren&#8217;t a lot of &#8220;kudos&#8221; is that the &#8220;upgrades&#8221; have been accompanied by downgrades of equal or greater magnitude. The greatest amount of suffering seems to have been inflicted on two groups: the low-limit/infrequent player who would just like the occasional buffet discount, and the medium-heavy player who is now finding out that his play doesn&#8217;t get him anywhere near the perks he used to get.</p>
<p>In general, when a casino trumpets the &#8220;improvements&#8221; to its slot club, that is generally code for, &#8220;We just made things a lot worse for you.&#8221; This change by Stations, when analyzed correctly, amounts to a wash when considered in context, such as the used-to-be-600-but-now-it&#8217;s-1000 pts/dollar rule. It should also be noted that M and South Point (Station&#8217;s main competitors for the hardcore locals&#8217; market) had slot clubs that were three times as generous as Stations, so Stations&#8217; ostensibly tripling the slot club rate, but at the same time introducing all the other downgrades that they did, leaves Stations still well behind other locals&#8217; casinos.</p>
<p>Of course, for the advantage VP player, Stations is still the best choice, since a few +EV machines persist there for the time being (and the slot club bennies at the other casinos don&#8217;t make up for, say, the difference between FPDW and NSUD).</p>
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		<title>By: No Point Upgrade</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Point Upgrade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a *lot* of Stations points.  I didn&#039;t get any noticeable upgrade.  I asked at the slot club and they said not everyone got an adjustment; the amount varied (could be a lot, could be only 40 points), and it was a corporate decision; and it maybe had something to do with how long you&#039;ve had your card (~2 years in my case).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a *lot* of Stations points.  I didn&#8217;t get any noticeable upgrade.  I asked at the slot club and they said not everyone got an adjustment; the amount varied (could be a lot, could be only 40 points), and it was a corporate decision; and it maybe had something to do with how long you&#8217;ve had your card (~2 years in my case).</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Ellsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emma Ellsworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you stated above that &#039;all your old points will be upgraded by 40%&#039;.  This needs to be clarified as I believe this is true only for points earned prior to when Station began cashback (not sure, but I think 2008).  I started playing heavy again at Staion back in May of 2011, and accumulated a couple million points.  NONE of these points received any adjustment, even after I wrote to the director of marketing.  In our case, the comp value of our accumulated points fell by $1700 with no compensation, dispite the fact that over that time we lost approx $5000 and never once had asked for a comp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you stated above that &#8216;all your old points will be upgraded by 40%&#8217;.  This needs to be clarified as I believe this is true only for points earned prior to when Station began cashback (not sure, but I think 2008).  I started playing heavy again at Staion back in May of 2011, and accumulated a couple million points.  NONE of these points received any adjustment, even after I wrote to the director of marketing.  In our case, the comp value of our accumulated points fell by $1700 with no compensation, dispite the fact that over that time we lost approx $5000 and never once had asked for a comp.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Krueger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still have a question on status points, and that is what is the period and length to earn status points.  I&#039;m somewhat confused by my stations site which states:
You&#039;ve earned 31,295 Total Status Credits this period (Jul - Jan.  But then below says:  ** Card Status reflect current month + past 2 months.  So do you have 6 months to earn status points or is it 3 months.  I visit every 4 months, so it makes a difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have a question on status points, and that is what is the period and length to earn status points.  I&#8217;m somewhat confused by my stations site which states:<br />
You&#8217;ve earned 31,295 Total Status Credits this period (Jul &#8211; Jan.  But then below says:  ** Card Status reflect current month + past 2 months.  So do you have 6 months to earn status points or is it 3 months.  I visit every 4 months, so it makes a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman D. Grunewald</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman D. Grunewald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t Station Casinos deserve kudos for upgrading its Players Club program?  All I see so far is complaining and concerns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t Station Casinos deserve kudos for upgrading its Players Club program?  All I see so far is complaining and concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie Strong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the last two explanations, Jean! It was hard to understand my husband&#039;s detailed instructions. You have nailed it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the last two explanations, Jean! It was hard to understand my husband&#8217;s detailed instructions. You have nailed it!</p>
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