I had already started this blog when earlier this week I read Bob Dancer’s article on a closely related subject. That article talks about why he would not like some casino promotions. I – and most frequent players – could echo his sentiments and tell stories about their painful experiences with promotions that did not produce positive feelings or good results.
Recently I came across a promotion that reminds me why some promotional problems are caused by the casino itself. It’s not just that “picky” players want everything their way. Case in point: Last month the Palms ran an earn-a-gift promotion that was advertised in our mailers to run all of June, with specific dates to redeem gift points. Many of us, especially the oldsters who are in down-sizing mode, do not need more “stuff” so blew off this promo when they saw it described in their mailers. However, some of us, through word of mouth, heard that there was a free play alternative to the gifts. No mailings gave this information, but if you stopped at the players club and asked about details of this promotion you were given a booklet that spelled out the free play details. Fortunately, a friend of ours heard about this from a friend of hers and passed the word on to me and I told every player friend I met.
I call this casino technique the lets-plan-a-party-but-not-tell-anyone-about-it. There is not much a player can do about this kind of problem except to cultivate a lot of player friends.
Then within this same promotion I just described the Palms pulled another unwelcome surprise. On Thursdays you could earn double gift points, but there was no printed notice anywhere that these double points could not be accumulated all month like the basic ones could. So, there were a lot of unhappy players who lost those double points because they didn’t redeem them the same week that they earned them. Again, the only way a few players avoided this promotional hazard was due to their networking.
Not picking on the Palms again – many casinos put up this kind of promotional roadblock – but this month they are running an earn-a-gas-card but have given few details in the monthly mailer. A friend went to the players club to ask for details and the clerk said she didn’t have a flyer to give out that explained it and she didn’t know the details herself. My friend is an old-time player with lots of experience with this kind of problem. He said that perhaps she could check the “master book,” the loose-leaf tome that most casinos have behind the players club desk that has the official printed details of all promotions going on in the casino. The clerk pulled out the book – reluctantly – and turned to the gas-card promotion and showed it to my friend, who calmly asked if she could make a copy of that page for him since the redemption chart was pretty long. I wish I could tell you that getting this page copy solved my friend’s problem. No, the details were not complete enough that he could decide whether this promotion was good enough for him to play.
I used to laugh at a casino – particularly Harrah’s – that would give you 3 sheets of paper about a promotion – full of single-spaced small font legalese – but that beats a casino who will not give you enough details so you can make an informed decision.
And when I was about finished with this blog, I was informed by a friend about a new Suncoast promotion he saw advertised in the casino that is an example of what he called “tricky” actions by a casino. Some video poker machines have signs on them that state on these you can earn tier credits two times faster. You can read the details here. The catch is that the paytables on these machines are dismally worse than on other similar games in the casino. Technically this is not untruth in advertising. However, we could point out that this is bad public relations. Casinos already have a reputation for seemingly having their hand constantly in your pocket or purse. Players don’t like to think they are also trying to trick you so you will contribute even more.
Most promotions primarily only benefit the casino. As a for-profit business this is not illegal. I don’t disagree that they have a right to run whatever program or promotion they wish as long as they stay within legal boundaries. They are within their rights to target promotions for certain categories, i.e., high rollers or locals. They can choose details that encourage visitation during slow business days, even though those times may exclude some groups.
However, a wise knowledgeable player will know that, for whatever reason, only a few promotions can be of benefit for any one player. He will accept that and spend more time scouting and studying more details than complaining about the ones that don’t meet his/her individual wishes and needs.
And a final person comment here: Trying to help people make sense of promotions has given me fodder for my writing for almost 20 years. If casinos started “doing everything right,” I just might finally get to retire!
DIGGING INTO MY MAILBAG
I field many questions about where to play now that casinos are cutting benefits and paytables right and left. I use this blog to help players cope with the new conditions, often citing my own experiences. However, I don’t get around to every casino, and I am happy when I can share information from fellow players.
Recently I heard from one reader who told about a good June promotion at the Vegas downtown Four Queens Casino. Unfortunately, they don’t put details of their promos on their website, but you could have found them if you had regularly checked this Vegas Values one I highly recommend. The Four Queens is not a fancy place, but a top choice if you are looking for reasonable room rates, with NO resort fee; some good restaurants, including the classic Hugo’s Cellar; a nice selection of good VP; and free parking for hotel guests and free validation parking for players and restaurant customers. Here at the LVA website, it is one of their TOP TEN bargains – and very high on my frugal list.
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Q: Jean, have you taken advantage of the Atlantis Resort trip that Caesars offers to customers in their 3 top tiers. I hear things are pretty expensive down in the Bahamas.
A: Brad and I haven’t done this trip and all I know about it is from the Caesars website. But I did hear from a reader who was looking for frugal hints.
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Q: I’d like to get to the higher tier levels at Stations Casinos, like President or even Chairman, but I am losing too much money playing at the higher-level machines to get more points faster. Any suggestions?
A: I strongly discourage playing beyond your bankroll or comfort level just to achieve a higher tier level. In almost all cases it would be cheaper to just pay for those higher-level benefits. However, during your normal play you could choose to play on multiple-point days. These extra points don’t up your tier score (which is based on “base” points) but you can redeem them for cash or free play which will cover some of your losses. And here is one player suggestion on how to get to the higher tiers faster and have a vacation at the same time:
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Q: Hi, as an out of towner coming to Vegas in July/Aug, I was wondering what newspaper and day I would look to see if there were any Boyd dining coupons that you mentioned for that time. Thanks.
A: There is now only one newspaper in town – since The Sun is now a section in the Review-Journal. But I can’t answer your 2nd question, since coupons flyers are slipped into the newspaper on no regular schedule. In fact, I can’t count on checking casino ads on any particular day. Most often they are in the front section of the newspaper on Sundays, particularly early in the month, but I never can depend on that. And, as I have mentioned before, sometimes an ad with a new promotion will pop up mid-month!
If you want casino coupons, your best bet is to subscribe to the “Las Vegas Advisor” here at my blog home and you will get a whole book of coupons free. You can also buy the American Casino Guide which has 182 coupons for casinos all over the U.S, including over 100 for Vegas.
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Not a question, but a comment. A couple blogs ago I mentioned a July 4th promotion coming up at South Point. I had given the details (which are still correct) but stated these differed from past multiple-point days. Scot Krause, who is always on the ball about promotions, said this one had always had the same details. I think my 80-year-old brain may be getting a little tired!!!! 😊
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I hope readers here regularly go to another part of my blog home – the popular QOD (“Question of the Day”). That’s another place to get your burning questions answered – and sometimes the QOD guru asks for my input. As sometimes happens with all casino information, there are a lot of details and, in trying to summarize in a brief manner, we might miss some of them that would make the answer more complete. That happened in a recent answer to a question about “crazy VP paytables.” We mentioned my “Frugal Video Poker Scouting Guide” as a great resource to find the EV of almost 200 of the most common VP paytables. I – and many other knowledgeable students of the game – won’t ever go to a casino without this small booklet in a purse or pocket. But it should be mentioned that this booklet is not the only resource you need. You might occasionally run into an unusual or rare “crazy” schedule that doesn’t appear in the “Scouting Guide.” Then you need a second important resource – a software program that allows you to modify paytables AND, very importantly, provides a strategy chart so you can play any schedule accurately.
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Down through the years I have tried to answer all of the questions players ask me, whether these questions are posed in the “Comments” at the end of each blog, in private e-mails, or in person. Sometimes my answers will come to you in an individual e-mail or on an Internet forum. And occasionally you will find answers in the QOD or in a blog like today’s!