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		<title>By: Starr Piercy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Starr Piercy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2018 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I carry warm gloves in the winter and give them to beggars instead of money. They seem to really appreciate them, and if they already have a pair, they can trade them within their community for other items.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I carry warm gloves in the winter and give them to beggars instead of money. They seem to really appreciate them, and if they already have a pair, they can trade them within their community for other items.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Bucceri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Bucceri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 22:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too remember reading this story the first time around. Was this really from 2003? That would have been 15 years ago. It seems like I just read it only a few years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too remember reading this story the first time around. Was this really from 2003? That would have been 15 years ago. It seems like I just read it only a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 03:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jean, I&#039;ve always wanted to meet you and Brad and maybe  some day I will. I am a hardcore  coupon run play every advantage I can muster  and VP player so this story above and Brads good deed reminded me of an event some years ago.. what I call Santa Vegas.  It was a December trip. I come in the as the Rodeo leaves and all the prices  drop. I am using both LVA &#038; ACG coupons  up that expire in just a week or 2 and  have a lot extra and  as I would go around I would  give or offer  coupons to people  that I wasn&#039;t  going to use.  ( Sometimes they would look at me  like  &quot;whats the catch&quot; and I would say&quot; its free money you want it or not?&quot; ). soo..I was up at Ramparts went in and played and came out for  a phone call to a friend back East who was checking up on me. I realized I had an extra coupon to use and  joked with my friend, &quot;Its a tough job but someone&#039;s gotta  do it!&quot; So I went back in. I had played a match play at craps after winning some VP money and  low and behold the guy  who had started  playing at the table  when I left was on&quot; the run of his life&quot; . His rack was full of blacks and greens. I waited for him to hit the point  ( again ) and  laid  down my little $10  plus mplay.  He  calls out&quot; is that all you are playing  with? &quot; I said, &quot;That&#039;s all i got&quot;. he mumbled something to the dealer I didn&#039;t hear and there some chips thrown and  he rolls the come out and  gets an 8. I don&#039;t even back my bet  , More chips from him and he hits the  8 !  And I am expecting  my $20  plus  back and the  dealer forks  over  like almost  $200 !!  I go &quot;what happened !? &quot;  he said  he ( the 
 shooter) backed you up on the  Hard EIGHT !&quot;  well talk about coupon karma I kept playing and  betting for the dealers and though he didn&#039;t last much longer  I left  with just short of $500. !! Call it what you will  there is nothing  wrong with  sharing the wealth a little  even in,.. especially in Vegas.  All the best  Bobby V]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean, I&#8217;ve always wanted to meet you and Brad and maybe  some day I will. I am a hardcore  coupon run play every advantage I can muster  and VP player so this story above and Brads good deed reminded me of an event some years ago.. what I call Santa Vegas.  It was a December trip. I come in the as the Rodeo leaves and all the prices  drop. I am using both LVA &amp; ACG coupons  up that expire in just a week or 2 and  have a lot extra and  as I would go around I would  give or offer  coupons to people  that I wasn&#8217;t  going to use.  ( Sometimes they would look at me  like  &#8220;whats the catch&#8221; and I would say&#8221; its free money you want it or not?&#8221; ). soo..I was up at Ramparts went in and played and came out for  a phone call to a friend back East who was checking up on me. I realized I had an extra coupon to use and  joked with my friend, &#8220;Its a tough job but someone&#8217;s gotta  do it!&#8221; So I went back in. I had played a match play at craps after winning some VP money and  low and behold the guy  who had started  playing at the table  when I left was on&#8221; the run of his life&#8221; . His rack was full of blacks and greens. I waited for him to hit the point  ( again ) and  laid  down my little $10  plus mplay.  He  calls out&#8221; is that all you are playing  with? &#8221; I said, &#8220;That&#8217;s all i got&#8221;. he mumbled something to the dealer I didn&#8217;t hear and there some chips thrown and  he rolls the come out and  gets an 8. I don&#8217;t even back my bet  , More chips from him and he hits the  8 !  And I am expecting  my $20  plus  back and the  dealer forks  over  like almost  $200 !!  I go &#8220;what happened !? &#8221;  he said  he ( the<br />
 shooter) backed you up on the  Hard EIGHT !&#8221;  well talk about coupon karma I kept playing and  betting for the dealers and though he didn&#8217;t last much longer  I left  with just short of $500. !! Call it what you will  there is nothing  wrong with  sharing the wealth a little  even in,.. especially in Vegas.  All the best  Bobby V</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the way you tell a story.  It becomes a teaching moment with humor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the way you tell a story.  It becomes a teaching moment with humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Beadling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Beadling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2018 03:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have remembered this story since you first wrote it. It has encouraged me to have the discipline to limit my play to only the best pay schedules and offers I can find. 

Thanks for printing it again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have remembered this story since you first wrote it. It has encouraged me to have the discipline to limit my play to only the best pay schedules and offers I can find. </p>
<p>Thanks for printing it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon Walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like you Jean Scott.  You always make me smile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like you Jean Scott.  You always make me smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, obviously, it doesn&#039;t matter if before playing, you donate $1000 to a homeless shelter or you strangle a puppy. There&#039;s no such thing as karma, and no such thing as luck, for that matter. If you say &quot;nonsense&quot; to that, I defy you to find any indication of its existence, the way you could magnetism, heat, or gravity.

The value of the play was the inherent EV of the play + $25. That was true whether you lost every hand or hit seven royals. The results don&#039;t matter; luck is illusory; the only thing that counts is EV. But man, have I had a hard time convincing people of that. 

And for what it&#039;s worth, I wouldn&#039;t have given the guy a dollar, because I would thus be encouraging him to bother more people after me. I don&#039;t want to make anyone&#039;s day less pleasant, and I feel that you and I have the right to not be solicited. I agree, give your dollars to a homeless shelter; they won&#039;t go to buy booze or cigarettes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, obviously, it doesn&#8217;t matter if before playing, you donate $1000 to a homeless shelter or you strangle a puppy. There&#8217;s no such thing as karma, and no such thing as luck, for that matter. If you say &#8220;nonsense&#8221; to that, I defy you to find any indication of its existence, the way you could magnetism, heat, or gravity.</p>
<p>The value of the play was the inherent EV of the play + $25. That was true whether you lost every hand or hit seven royals. The results don&#8217;t matter; luck is illusory; the only thing that counts is EV. But man, have I had a hard time convincing people of that. </p>
<p>And for what it&#8217;s worth, I wouldn&#8217;t have given the guy a dollar, because I would thus be encouraging him to bother more people after me. I don&#8217;t want to make anyone&#8217;s day less pleasant, and I feel that you and I have the right to not be solicited. I agree, give your dollars to a homeless shelter; they won&#8217;t go to buy booze or cigarettes.</p>
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