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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/frugal-vegas/station-casinos-lose-love-for-vp-players/comment-page-1/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Station Casinos rewards loyal customers
25 November 2009

By Howard Stutz

LAS VEGAS, Nevada -- Casino companies have seen loyal customers remain loyal, even through the worst-ever recession to strike the gaming industry.

Station Casinos, zapped hardest of all the locals casino operators, wanted to do something special for its die-hard, high-end followers.

Company executives realize promotions, marketing and rewards programs need to be targeted toward devoted players as Station Casinos weaves its way through Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and reorganizes its debt structure.

The company put together a special VIP weekend celebration earlier this month at Red Rock Resort, bringing together 250 high-end customers from every Station Casinos property. It was the first such event in its history.

Players took part in an all-out weekend that included dining trips to several Station Casinos high-end restaurants, spa excursions through the Red Rock Resort spa, golf outings and summer-camp-style classes, such as sushi rolling and pastry making, all taught by the company&#039;s executive chefs.

&quot;Now more than ever it&#039;s important to recognize and reward guest loyalty,&quot; Station Casinos Chief Operating Officer Kevin Kelley said. &quot;We wanted to step out of the box and thank them for their loyalty in a way that our competition just couldn&#039;t.&quot;

The highlight event was a Saturday night dinner featuring actor Mario Lopez, a finalist on the television series &quot;Dancing with the Stars.&quot; Lopez hosted a &quot;Dancing with the Stars-style&quot; competition between several casino hosts.

All 250 customers received a free seven-day cruise. One customer won a $100,000 Mercedes S550. Another 10 players won cash prizes totaling $100,000.

&quot;We had an overwhelmingly positive response from the players that attended this weekend,&quot; Kelley said. &quot;It made them feel valued and that&#039;s how you grow guest loyalty.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Station Casinos rewards loyal customers<br />
25 November 2009</p>
<p>By Howard Stutz</p>
<p>LAS VEGAS, Nevada &#8212; Casino companies have seen loyal customers remain loyal, even through the worst-ever recession to strike the gaming industry.</p>
<p>Station Casinos, zapped hardest of all the locals casino operators, wanted to do something special for its die-hard, high-end followers.</p>
<p>Company executives realize promotions, marketing and rewards programs need to be targeted toward devoted players as Station Casinos weaves its way through Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and reorganizes its debt structure.</p>
<p>The company put together a special VIP weekend celebration earlier this month at Red Rock Resort, bringing together 250 high-end customers from every Station Casinos property. It was the first such event in its history.</p>
<p>Players took part in an all-out weekend that included dining trips to several Station Casinos high-end restaurants, spa excursions through the Red Rock Resort spa, golf outings and summer-camp-style classes, such as sushi rolling and pastry making, all taught by the company&#8217;s executive chefs.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now more than ever it&#8217;s important to recognize and reward guest loyalty,&#8221; Station Casinos Chief Operating Officer Kevin Kelley said. &#8220;We wanted to step out of the box and thank them for their loyalty in a way that our competition just couldn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>The highlight event was a Saturday night dinner featuring actor Mario Lopez, a finalist on the television series &#8220;Dancing with the Stars.&#8221; Lopez hosted a &#8220;Dancing with the Stars-style&#8221; competition between several casino hosts.</p>
<p>All 250 customers received a free seven-day cruise. One customer won a $100,000 Mercedes S550. Another 10 players won cash prizes totaling $100,000.</p>
<p>&#8220;We had an overwhelmingly positive response from the players that attended this weekend,&#8221; Kelley said. &#8220;It made them feel valued and that&#8217;s how you grow guest loyalty.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the heads up on Station Casinos.  I will be leaving from Boston to LV on Tuesday.  I usually play 
at Texas and Alianti.  Because your book &quot;The Frugal Gambler&quot; is my Bible, I generally come out ahead.

I was there in September and came home with more money then I went with. 

I stay at my Sister&#039;s house 2 miles from Aliante, which keeps me from be tempted to gamble when I know I shouldn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up on Station Casinos.  I will be leaving from Boston to LV on Tuesday.  I usually play<br />
at Texas and Alianti.  Because your book &#8220;The Frugal Gambler&#8221; is my Bible, I generally come out ahead.</p>
<p>I was there in September and came home with more money then I went with. </p>
<p>I stay at my Sister&#8217;s house 2 miles from Aliante, which keeps me from be tempted to gamble when I know I shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Lewis</title>
		<link>https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/frugal-vegas/station-casinos-lose-love-for-vp-players/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Positive VP players DO spend money in the casino. For one thing, they don&#039;t always play positive games--some bet on sports, some play craps, etc. They often have spouses who play -EV games. They also eat in the restaurants, patronize the other amenities, see shows, etc. etc. etc.

And as far as comps go, a positive VP player at Stations currently earns four cents in comps for every hundred dollars he or she puts through the machine, so it would take about $25,000 in play to earn a movie ticket, or breakfast in the coffee shop. I doubt that very many people are &quot;using their comps or points&quot; any more---that&#039;s been pretty much snuffed out by Stations.

And if they&#039;re losing money, it&#039;s because they&#039;ve been too stupid and arrogant to change their marketing strategies to reflect current realities. George Maloof and others proved long ago that it is a profitable strategy to offer positive EV video poker games. Stations USED to understand that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Positive VP players DO spend money in the casino. For one thing, they don&#8217;t always play positive games&#8211;some bet on sports, some play craps, etc. They often have spouses who play -EV games. They also eat in the restaurants, patronize the other amenities, see shows, etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>And as far as comps go, a positive VP player at Stations currently earns four cents in comps for every hundred dollars he or she puts through the machine, so it would take about $25,000 in play to earn a movie ticket, or breakfast in the coffee shop. I doubt that very many people are &#8220;using their comps or points&#8221; any more&#8212;that&#8217;s been pretty much snuffed out by Stations.</p>
<p>And if they&#8217;re losing money, it&#8217;s because they&#8217;ve been too stupid and arrogant to change their marketing strategies to reflect current realities. George Maloof and others proved long ago that it is a profitable strategy to offer positive EV video poker games. Stations USED to understand that.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry DeMaio</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry DeMaio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you expect them to continue losing money? They are only trying to stem the tide of losses.
Have you ever noticed that positive VP players never spend a dime in the casinos? They only use their comps or points and then they are always complaining that the casinos don&#039;t give them more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you expect them to continue losing money? They are only trying to stem the tide of losses.<br />
Have you ever noticed that positive VP players never spend a dime in the casinos? They only use their comps or points and then they are always complaining that the casinos don&#8217;t give them more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had an abiding hatred for Stations ever since yea, these many moons ago when their grand strategy was to buy up every locals&#039; casino in Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and Henderson, thereby eliminating the competition, and then ruin the VP. I cried when they ate the Reserve. I threw up when they devoured the Santa Fe. And I choked when they murdered the Fiesta. I watched as VP heavens were slowly turned into VP wastelands. Then they started cutting back on comps, cashback, mailers, etc. The height of absurdity was reached with an 0.004% points rate on all their remaining decent machines. Now, they think that the way to survive in a bad economy is to drive away a large portion of their customer base. They deserve to fail. Die, Stations Casinos! Die! Die! Die!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had an abiding hatred for Stations ever since yea, these many moons ago when their grand strategy was to buy up every locals&#8217; casino in Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and Henderson, thereby eliminating the competition, and then ruin the VP. I cried when they ate the Reserve. I threw up when they devoured the Santa Fe. And I choked when they murdered the Fiesta. I watched as VP heavens were slowly turned into VP wastelands. Then they started cutting back on comps, cashback, mailers, etc. The height of absurdity was reached with an 0.004% points rate on all their remaining decent machines. Now, they think that the way to survive in a bad economy is to drive away a large portion of their customer base. They deserve to fail. Die, Stations Casinos! Die! Die! Die!</p>
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		<title>By: Benue183</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benue183]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am really sorry to hear this news.  My husband and I have made Palace Station our new &quot;home&quot; casino since our beloved Stardust and Westward Ho closed.  We also stay at the Orleans every trip.  I guess we will have to rethink our strategy, staying longer at non Station properties.  I am really disappointed in their marketing department.  I think they are making a bad situation even worse with this change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really sorry to hear this news.  My husband and I have made Palace Station our new &#8220;home&#8221; casino since our beloved Stardust and Westward Ho closed.  We also stay at the Orleans every trip.  I guess we will have to rethink our strategy, staying longer at non Station properties.  I am really disappointed in their marketing department.  I think they are making a bad situation even worse with this change.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hasson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Hasson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A second rate organization making third rate decisions trying to keep it&#039;s head above water.  Plenty of competitors out there, and they will be picking up serious players action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A second rate organization making third rate decisions trying to keep it&#8217;s head above water.  Plenty of competitors out there, and they will be picking up serious players action.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Gabrielli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Gabrielli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a year ago, I noticed significant payback reductions on Stations&#039; vp machines and I switched casinos. (I now ferequent Boyd/Coast casinos.) Now I see this article, which just confirms my decision. I often hear former Stations&#039; vp players who now play at the Coast casinos say that they will &quot;never&quot; go back to Stations; they aren&#039;t being treated very well at Stations. This, of course, leads into some very interesting discussions. Stations is making a very poor marketing call here and are losing their vp customer base in droves. I just hope Boyd&#039;s takeover offer comes to pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a year ago, I noticed significant payback reductions on Stations&#8217; vp machines and I switched casinos. (I now ferequent Boyd/Coast casinos.) Now I see this article, which just confirms my decision. I often hear former Stations&#8217; vp players who now play at the Coast casinos say that they will &#8220;never&#8221; go back to Stations; they aren&#8217;t being treated very well at Stations. This, of course, leads into some very interesting discussions. Stations is making a very poor marketing call here and are losing their vp customer base in droves. I just hope Boyd&#8217;s takeover offer comes to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerr Mudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kerr Mudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jean,
I agree completely. As one who plays video poker almost exclusively, I won&#039;t be tempted to play slot machines just for extra points, over vp points... I&#039;ll go someplace where my vp play is more welcome.
BTW, the only time I play slots is when I get free plays as a promotion; besides, the newer slots look so complicated that I just don&#039;t want to invest the time and money it would take for me to learn how to play them!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean,<br />
I agree completely. As one who plays video poker almost exclusively, I won&#8217;t be tempted to play slot machines just for extra points, over vp points&#8230; I&#8217;ll go someplace where my vp play is more welcome.<br />
BTW, the only time I play slots is when I get free plays as a promotion; besides, the newer slots look so complicated that I just don&#8217;t want to invest the time and money it would take for me to learn how to play them!</p>
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