This week we have a return visit from “Griff,” a surveillance director who works somewhere east of Las Vegas. Griff answers questions from our listeners. We welcome your questions – send them to us at [email protected].
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Show Notes
[00:00] Introduction of Griff, Surveillance Pro
[00:39] Does the mode of transportation affect the casino’s opinion of a player?
[01:25] How often to casinos review all available footage of a player?
[04:12] Do casinos track who APs talk to into the casino?
[06:35] How do casinos detect hole carding?
[07:29] How often do casinos read players texts?
[10:12] Has Griff ever seen distractions used as part of a scam?
[14:04] How does surveillance deal with calls about betting table thresholds?
[15:42] What happens when a player receives a sizable marker?
[17:09] Does surveillance get a call for every W2G?
[18:00] Do casinos notify their competitors about known APs or cheaters?
[19:21] Does Griff contribute to OSN? How widely dispersed are OSN flyers?
[20:43] How long is digital surveillance information saved?
[22:42] Has Griff participated in choke point design?
[24:29] Does surveillance have direct access to kiosk or ATM cameras?
[26:04] South Point Casino Promotions – VP classes start 1/8
[27:01] VideoPoker.com – Game of the Week: Face Card Frenzy
[28:19] What is the difference between a back-off and a trespass?
[31:14] Is there software that can identify various types of advantage play?
[31:42] Does Griff’s casino sweat people who track numbers at roulette?
[33:45] How many casinos use RFID chips to track betting patterns?
[35:53] How does the work day begin and end in the surveillance department?
[37:20] How does surveillance head count vary by shift and time of day?
[39:33] Will casinos buy AP literature to educate employees?
[42:11] Is Griff an AP is his spare time?
[43:13] How much analysis is done in real time versus after the fact?
[44:40] Does Griff check other players at the table during a hole-card game?
[46:51] Are their cameras that cannot be seen by the customers?
[48:20] Does a surveillance officer wear a wire when investigating employee theft?
[49:38] Who makes the decision to call the police?
[50:48] Are surveillance and security usually in the same department?
[54:16] Is math aptitude part of the job in surveillance?
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ATM/Kiosk cameras. Good idea,but it would take a photo of the person using that money device.
There are cameras in ATM’s in public and bank locations.
Some one pinches a TITO slip,I would want to know who they are,indeed.
Really good question,no GREAT question Richard….as usual.
Griff is great and I am glued to this pod cast.
The more information about a casino,the better.
Personal videos taken by a guest: NEVER take a photo of the cage!
IF you want to take a selfie inside a casino,leave the flash…OFF!
Security will be all over you in a FLASH.
I appologize If this isnt the appropriate place for this question since it doesn’t relate directly to this episode, I wasn’t sure where else
I could reach out…In anycase hopefully you can help….
I have a question regarding AP on “Down Under” black jack.
It’s a very interesting game and seems like it sways the advantage for APs since you know the count of the hole card.
Since the dealer does push on 22 the edge probably evens out
I was able to find basic strategy charts on wizard of odds, which is very helpful
What’s your opinion? Better, worse,
Or same odds as typical blackjack or double deck games?
Also if the count is High and you have an 18, dealer has face card and 10 under (dealer 20) do you stay and loose so to keep the count high for the next round? Or hit and take a chance at a small card?
It’s a little counter intuitive, but I’d rather save the face cards for the next round instead of hitting an 18
Unless the count is low of course
What’s your opinion?
Thanks!
C.K.
I enjoyed listening to Griff. Good stuff. I did want to mention that although this might hurt some feelings, you fellas who call yourselves advantage players often seem to have an overly exaggerated opinion of your importance. Only the tiniest number of you guys ever actually make money. You dream up all this cloak and dagger BS, and act as if you’re James Bond, kicking the casino’s butt. Any moron can tell if a player has a big spread with his bets he’s trying to count cards.
Overall, the casinos love you guys. Let me tell you how Black Jack works. It goes all the dealers way, all your way or back and forth. When it seems to be going your way, jump in and bet your ass off. Then, when it’s not going your way get out NOW. And by the way, it sure seems to go the dealers way more often that it should.
Believe me you can get trespassed for no other reason than winning. All my trespasses are for that single reason. There is absolutely no reason I would “poke the bear” as I am an old 99 pound weakling with a limp.
Would of like to hear more about “surveillance and sports bettors”. Only in two rare occasions have I seen “video” used with/against sports bettors. One was by the sharpest sports book manager I ever meet who said “Richard you didn’t bet this winning ticket as I have looked at the video (no player number on the ticket)”. Me, “no sir I didn’t my son-in-law did and he flew back east yesterday.” CASHED