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Comparing Two “Super” Games

June 27, 2017 5 Comments Written by Bob Dancer

Super Double Bonus (SDB) and Super Aces Bonus (SAB) are both variations of Double Bonus. In “regular” Double Bonus, four aces get paid 160 for 1, four 2s-4s get paid 80 for 1, and four 5s-Ks get paid 50 for one.

Each of the variations we’re looking at today keeps that basic structure for the quads, with one exception each. In SDB, four Js-Ks receive 120 for 1 rather than 50 for 1 (and you receive more for the straight flush as well). In SAB, four aces receive a gigantic 400 for 1. In both games, the amount for the full house and flush is adjusted downward until it gets into the “acceptable” range. This means the pay schedule returns enough to attract the players, but not so much that the casinos are afraid of it. The two pay schedules discussed in this article are the highest allowed for these particular games. In many casinos, you’ll find lower pay schedules than these, but that won’t affect the discussion that follows.

 

9/5 Super 8/5 Super
Double Bonus Aces Bonus
Royal Flush 800 800
Straight Flush 80 60
Four Aces 160 400
Four Js-Ks 120 50
Four 2s-4s 80 80
Four 5s-Ts 50 50
Full House 9 8
Flush 5 5
Straight 4 4
Three of a Kind 3 3
Two Pair 1 1
Jacks or Better 1 1
Return 99.69% 99.94%
Variance 38.0 63.4

 

The strategies for the two games are very similar. This is largely because they receive identical amounts for flushes, straights, and two pair — which are the three pay-schedule categories that matter most when it comes to strategy.

In today’s column, I’m going to present four hands that are played differently in the two games. Your job is to figure out both plays. Even if you have never played either game, you have two important clues to help you out:

  1. The plays are different. This is a HUGE clue.
  2. The plays are different because of the pay schedule.

 

  1. 5♣ 6♣ 7♣ 8♣ 9♥
  2. A♥ Q♠ J♦ 9♣ 3♠
  3. A♠ Q♥ 8♦ 4♣ 3♠
  4. K♥ T♥ 8♦ 7♣ 6♠

 

Where dollar and cent amounts are indicated, it assumes you are playing for dollars, five coins at a time.

 

  1. There are only two reasonable plays here. The “chickens” keep the straight and the “gamblers” go for the straight flush. The different returns for quads has no bearing when you hold at least four cards of different ranks, so the determining factor must be that SDB returns more for the straight flush. In SDB, ‘5678’ is better by $2.87, and in SAB, 56789 is better by $1.39. Obviously neither play is close.
  2. With three unsuited high cards including an ace, the “standard” play in both Jacks or Better and Double Bonus is to discard the ace and hold the other two high cards. That’s the correct play in SDB by 10.6¢. In SAB, the much greater return for four aces means that you go for them more. In SAB, holding the single ace is the better play by 20.6¢.
  3. This is very similar to the last hand. In SDB you hold AQ by 2.6¢. In SAB, you hold the solitary ace by 19.6¢. And the reason, again, for the difference is the large amount you receive for four aces in SAB.
  4. This last hand is intentionally tricky, in that there are more than two choices. Holding ‘KT’ is obvious. Holding the inside straight, T876, is also an eligible choice. It takes some experience to know that inside straights with no high cards are worth considerably less than either single high cards or a single high card with a suited ten. Perhaps the hardest option to see is holding the king by itself. Some players can’t bring themselves to break up royal combinations no matter what the pay schedule. Once you realize that the king by itself is a viable option, then since SDB pays more for four kings, holding the single king in that game is the better play by 2.8¢. In SAB, the “normal” play of ‘KT’ is better by 3.0¢.

 

So how did you do? As a test, this wasn’t too difficult. But as a learning experience, there were some important things to remember. First of all, each game has its own strategy and those of you who use more-or-less the same strategy for most games are taking the worst of it. Second, sometimes the reason for the differences in the strategies is obvious once you closely examine the idiosyncrasies of the pay schedule.

Finally, I want to leave you with a hand that’s played the same in both games, assuming you are playing with the best pay schedule. K♥ K♠ 9♥ 9♦ 3♣. Although many seat-of-the-pants players will just hold the kings, in SAB, holding KK99 is better by 79¢. In SDB it’s a closer play because four kings pay so much, but KK99 is still better in that game by 19¢. If you find yourself playing a version of SDB where the full house pays only 40 or less instead of 45, that’s enough to change the correct play to KK.

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5 Comments

  1. alpax alpax
    June 27, 2017    

    Outstanding in-depth column on the bonus games that are not commonly found. The Clue #1 helped considerably, but I am still aware of the importance of every game type and each of its pay table requiring many hours of practice and studying strategy. Although SDB and SAB are variants of Double Bonus, I would believe most Double Bonus players are used to having 6 for 1 or 7 for 1 payouts for flushes. Would be good to see a column to hypothetically explore the perils of a Double Bonus player applying basic knowledge to SDB if there is not plenty of things to write about.

  2. edward murakami edward murakami
    June 27, 2017    

    Enjoy continually reading your articles. I find them amusing and helpful. Attended classes at Barona in So.Calif. and South Point in L.V. I’ve found both games available but with paytables like 6/5, I won’t bother looking. 9/5 paytables are hard enough to try and break even on. Thanks for your years of entertainment Mr. Dancer.

  3. mike reynolds mike reynolds
    June 28, 2017    

    Another great game along these lines is Royal Aces Bonus Poker. In this game, as you know Bob, quad aces pay 800 for 1 – no kicker needed. Moreover, the 800 for 1 applies for single coin in – you do not need 5 coins in to get the jackpot bonus as you would in default IGT setups for games like Triple Double Bonus. I am not advocating single coin play (unless the game is setup to pay 800 for 1 for a single coin NRF), but for people who play single coin despite the payback hit, this may be helpful in decision making.

  4. Kevin Lewis Kevin Lewis
    June 28, 2017    

    Without naming the casino, there is a .50 SDB machine, with the paytable listed above, and the casino gives out a $10 bonus for any jackpot of $300 or more on video poker. So quad J/Q/Ks are worth 124 bets, with a 4-bet payoff increase also to AAAA and RF. I wonder if this small difference is enough to alter any of the standard strategy for this game. I also roughly calculate that you get the bonus about every 1250 hands or so–so 4 extra bets every 1250 hands, or a roughly 0.3% boost. Almost enough to make the game go positive–and small cashback plus other promos pushes it mildly over the top. Not enough to make you drop everything and break down the door to play it, but it’s always nice to find a positive game hidden in the weeds.

    The $1 version would also snag the bonus on quad 2/3/4s, though the bonus would only be worth 2 bets in that game.

  5. JR JR
    July 10, 2017    

    Since I play 9/5 SDB a lot, got them all right.

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