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Coronavirus V: The Blackjack Call

March 28, 2021 28 Comments Written by James Grosjean

The Blackjack Ball, an annual get-together of professional gamblers, was historically hosted by Max Rubin over New Year’s, when the big card-counting teams would create their own fireworks all over Vegas. It was great fun while it lasted. But New Year’s became a victim of its own success. Vegas is so crowded on holiday weekends that getting a room, a parking spot, or a seat at a blackjack table is almost impossible, and certainly more trouble than it’s worth. And, the big-team model went extinct. The Uston team is no more (though some of its original players are still out there). The Czech team isn’t even a distant memory. The MIT team lives on only in the movies. Do any of the Greeks even play anymore? Hyland’s old gang is mostly doing other stuff. The Holy Rollers are now a decentralized swarm of counting zombies.

With no more counting teams to accommodate, The Blackjack Ball these days is scheduled to avoid the chaos of New Year’s. But the pandemic brought a whole new type of chaos. While the casinos probably would have loved to see a hundred of the world’s top APs (who are mostly 50+ years old) wiped out by a single superspreader event, it was not in the cards for 2021.

Instead, Max’s organizers are eagerly looking forward to holding the next in-person event in 2022. For 2021, using the wonders of modern technology, the usual attendees had a chance to share news from the trenches via Max Rubin’s 1st Annual Blackjack Call.

In a moderated Zoom call with some 50 or so participants, we took turns talking about various stuff. I’ll share here what I spoke about, on the topic of “Playing during the Pandemic.”

Masks were a mixed bag. Much has been made about the opportunity for card counters to run around wearing masks and go back to places where they’d previously been backed off. Yes, I did see masked counters show up at my local joint, and they got some play in, but they didn’t last long before getting backed off anyway. Wearing a mask at a place you play regularly doesn’t help much, because everyone still recognizes you instantly. The real benefit is to wear a mask and go to a place where you’ve never played before, and get some hours of play in without anyone even learning what you look like. You start with a clean slate, and you get to play without dirtying the slate. There aren’t many worthwhile places that I haven’t played before, so the masks didn’t benefit me personally much, but some counters definitely benefited from the masks, all else being equal.

But when is all else equal? Because casinos are paranoid about masks, many of them started IDing or photographing people at the door. Some of us angels feared to tread there. For those players who went in anyway, getting photographed at the door negated much of the benefit of masks. There were some players who got backed off and possibly databased due to these procedures.

Conditions generally were a mixed bag. The biggest change during the pandemic was that most casinos restricted table games to three or four players. At crowded locals casinos, it was very difficult to get a seat, especially if you wanted a particular seat. Many APs reported having to routinely wait over an hour for a seat, often giving up. Wongers couldn’t wong.

Not only was it difficult to get a seat, but there was a lot of awkwardness and sometimes arguing with other patrons. If you actually played, you might have had someone standing right behind you waiting for a seat, literally breathing down your neck (during a pandemic).

On the other hand, if you actually got a seat, you then enjoyed a three-handed game, which was noticeably faster than a full table. If your team controlled two or three of the seats, the game speed was probably doubled. The session win rate was noticeably higher as a result. Debating this with some teammates, we think that all things considered, we prefer the restriction on number of players.

Other pandemic protocols were a mixed bag as well. Masks and plexiglass made it harder to hear and see. I’m not the only one to report my glasses fogging up due to the mask. Teammates had a hard time hearing verbal signals. However, dealers couldn’t hear us talking either, and masked dealers behind plexiglass were less chatty, further boosting our game speed. There’s a big lesson there for all APs, but especially the loquacious counters: Enough talk!

Were there “special” opportunities? Yes. As a direct consequence of tables being limited to three players, some casinos started allowing players to play two boxes on games that were previously limited to one. All players, AP or otherwise, prefer this option.

In Washington state, the minicasinos erected outdoor tents with better ventilation. However, these tents did not have the proper electronics to manage the progressive jackpots, so the existing jackpot monies were dumped off via very generous promotions. There were backoffs, but some players made a quick five or six figures.

Due to closing times to accommodate coronavirus cleanup procedures, various machine opportunities were available that normally wouldn’t be. In one striking example, a $50000 must-hit-by jackpot that was ready to pop was abandoned on closing night in early 2020, and was available on re-opening day (and hit with about $1000 cash in).

Due to the lockdowns (and perhaps the stimulus checks), online poker made a bit of a resurgence. Sitting at home for months was a perfect time to play online and study GTO strategies and tutorial videos.

But for all the paranoid casino personnel who are sweating all the supposed special opportunities for APs, I want to explain something: Adaptable APs can always find targets. At any time in any context, finding playable targets is just routine business. It’s nothing special. We’d rather not have restrictions on travel, dining, and entertainment. We do not want to wear masks (but we will do our part). And we certainly don’t want the risk of disease.

For those APs who avoided casinos during the pandemic, who are now wondering whether they over-reacted and played it too safe, I can share some insight there, too. Do we know people who went to casinos a lot who died of coronavirus? Yes. Do we know family and friends who got it? Yes. Did I personally get coronavirus? Yes. And I got it at the casino.

I consider myself a numbers guy, but I’m willing to boil it down to the practical bottom line (so please don’t nitpick me here). If you played only casinos that required masks and also banned smoking and drinking, and you yourself were careful, you could have played actively and not gotten the virus. But if you played full-time, including casinos that didn’t have those full restrictions, you were likely to get it. And if you had gotten it, that’s a gamble you don’t want to take. I consider my own symptoms to have been on the mild, lucky side, but they were still worrisome, and not like the flu. Had any of my older (or fatter!) teammates gotten it, or any attendees at The Ball, I’d be extremely worried.

Of course, we’re not out of the woods. So if you’re still staying home, I’d say to hunker down and keep watching Netflix (I recommend the Ip Man series). When we get to the other side of this pandemic, the games will still be there.

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28 Comments

  1. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    March 21, 2021    

    It seems like masks don’t matter in the covid world when it comes to playing blackjack at a casino where they know you or don’t know you from the way you described the casinos behavior. They’re ready to back off anyone if they test their tolerance level on the felt. With less players in the casino for surveillance to study that should make it easier to detect an anomaly. I believe the casinos have anticipated the move by the card counters, hence the backoffs continue. One would figure that the casinos would need the business in such an economic downturn and wouldn’t back players off so easily but with corporate welfare readily available via the stimulus packages the casinos owners know they are not going anywhere.

    If your glasses are fogging up at the table when you exhale maybe you should consider pulling down your mask to where it’s just underneath your nose, as long as you wear the mask to an extent the casino shouldn’t care and I doubt they would tell you to place your mask back above your nose as long as you are playing the game.

    It makes sense that the dealers in the casino would be less talkative while wearing the mask and dealing. The mask restricts breathing and when a person wears a mask more carbon dioxide enters the bloodstream and it’s poisonous to humans. So I could see how a dealer may want to keep talking to a minimum because it’s uncomfortable to wear a mask and have to talk for a length of time, especially if the dealer is a smoker.

    Mississippi recently lifted their mask mandate however the gaming commission in the state still requires casino patrons and their employees to still wear the mask. It makes no sense why private corporations are undermining the states order. It seems that a general sense of lawlessness exists.

  2. EV Bandit EV Bandit
    March 24, 2021    

    “I’m not the only one to report my glasses fogging up due to the mask.”

    Clear medical tape or skin tape across the bridge of your mask will provide a tighter seal so your glasses won’t fog up. And, you need to keep the roll of medical tape in a zip-lock baggie to keep the tape free from dirt, lint, etc.

    You can use bandaids in a pinch.

    Btw, I bought your “Beyond Counting” when it first came out (and still have the original receipt). Cal Neva in Reno once had the full pay Video BJ with let it ride or double up feature (the base game is -EV but play was +EV with points into free slot play). Your advice in the book didn’t talk about the wild roller coaster ride.

  3. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    March 24, 2021    

    Expelling water molecules with each exhale is an unfortunate circumstance of being human. The easy remedy to keep your glasses from fogging up is just to pull the bridge of the mask below the nose, trust me the house won’t say anything as they want you playing their games. Using tape on the bridge of the mask is taking things too far, that’s a freak show and there has to be a limit to the hysteria. I’m sure James could afford anti fogging glasses or possibly rubbing shaving cream on both sides of the lenses for 15 minutes and then wiping them clean before he goes into the casino may work to keep his glasses from fogging.

  4. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    March 24, 2021    

    But then again I don’t think James is the type of person who wear glasses all the time. He’s just saying that in his latest post to throw off people who are seeking information about his physical description. He uses deception as an art form on purpose to intentionally deceive the casino and people, much like a poker player would give a false tell to an adversary sitting across from them. He probably uses a mix between glasses and contact lenses. If he does in fact have a prescription for glasses I would assume that he’s nearsighted and wears a no line bifocal. The rims and sides of his glasses are probably dark or drab in color to match his hair color.

  5. Jimmy Jazz Jimmy Jazz
    March 25, 2021    

    Why would you encourage people to wear a mask improperly? Wearing it below your nose means no protection for what you breathe in and out of your nose and most people breathe through their nose.

    If you don’t think masks work ( and the entire world is wrong), so be it but don’t encourage others to compromise their effectiveness.

  6. Michael Alexakis Michael Alexakis
    March 29, 2021    

    Letting your mask down below your nose is like cutting a hole in your condom so your trouser worm won’t feel constrained… Imagine how you would feel when they wheel you in for an eight hour open heart surgery if your surgeon told you he/she just can’t take wearing a mask for the whole time, that “freedom” trumped you getting an infection… I highly doubt you would say just wear it below your nose…

  7. James August James August
    March 30, 2021    

    Anytime I feel a little down, I read this blog, and feel so much more superior.

  8. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    March 31, 2021    

    Standard masks won’t stop anything anything Jimmy, if the CDC and our government cared so much then why didn’t they issue N95 masks to the people? The masks actually morphed into a fashion statement relatively quickly here in the United States. It represents a mockery to what’s going on and that’s how I interpret it. Casino employees have to wear masks in my state and surrounding states and they sport the logo of the casino. Notice the corporate uniformity? It’s all a fashion statement and it’s dumb and then you have people wearing all different kinds of mask styles and colors.

    It’s not that the world is wrong Jimmy, just the people governing the world. They are the pandemic, they are the problem. The state I live in lifted their mask mandate and it’s a good thing they did. This madness had to stop sooner or later with these masks but businesses can still have people wear a mask to enter their building if they choose. Today when I was doing my local rounds in the morning I didn’t wear a mask into any store I went into but there were plenty of people who I can tell are scared, I can tell because their all wearing their masks still, they don’t want to go back to the way things were in 2019 and before. They have Stockholm Syndrome. They have fallen in love with their mask and their captors. To me the mask represents communism being pushed onto the people by state and corporate powers. That by definition is fascism.

  9. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    March 31, 2021    

    Michael, a mask is necessary during a medial procedure where the patient may have an infectious disease. Even if they don’t the surgeon doesn’t want to possibly get sprayed with a persons bodily fluids. Having worked as a clinician for a short period of time I always used gloves and disinfected my equipment when working with a patient. Many doctors do not wear gloves when working with patients and do not disinfect their equipment from what I’ve noticed.

  10. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    March 31, 2021    

    Remember that cult classic movie “They Live?” That movie parallels the current freak show in society but in reverse. Those who don’t believe in wearing the mask can see the world for what it is and how it is changing. Those who desire the mask are the ones who obey, consume, marry and reproduce, watch TV, stay asleep, conform, and have no independent thought. They do as they are told without question.

    No “privilege” passport will stop me from walking into a corporate store as I will blend in as a chameleon and will appear as one of them. In that case a mask may be necessary to play the role and I will walk right past their front line defenses and infiltrate them at my will and they won’t be able to do anything about it.

  11. Michael Alexakis Michael Alexakis
    April 1, 2021    

    Las Vegas casinos allow you to lower your mask to smoke and drink, here in Los Angeles you have to get up and go to a designated area if you want a sip of water in a casino. Hopefully this will all end soon, and we can get back to normal. Be safe…

  12. Bob+Dancer Bob+Dancer
    April 1, 2021    

    I’m not sure how this post devolved in a discussion about masks — but since we’re there . . .

    On the Blackjack Call, there was no discussion about whether masks would be required or recommended. Or proof of vaccines. At least BJ Hall of Famer is adamant that he will never get a vaccine. If the actual Ball happens January, February, or March of next year, things will have changed with respect to CDC guidelines. How? Well, we don’t really know at this time. It could be the pandemic is all but over (a nice thought — but probably not realistic). It could also be that one or more variants have gone wild and we’re back where we were six months ago (a terrible thought — hopefully not realistic either.)

    On the Call, the assumption was that the pandemic would be over. If this isn’t true, having 100 people maskless in a relatively small room, all drinking and standing close to each other while they talk, has the potential of being a super-spreader event.

  13. Dunbar Dunbar
    April 1, 2021    

    James, thanks for sharing a bit of the Blackjack Call with us. The mask-as-disguise would have been particularly ineffective at MGM National Harbor, at least in August. They had a sign at the entrance that said something like ‘please lower your mask as you pass through security’. By the time I returned in January, that sign was gone.

    I hope the Blackjack Ball returns in 2022. Otherwise, I’ll regret the 3 hours a day I’ve spent this past year practicing identifying face cards from the 3/4″ pieces I’ve cut them into.

  14. Adam C Adam C
    April 2, 2021    

    James, why haven’t you backed off Blitzkreig from your blog? he’s proven himself a clueless idiot time and time again in responding to your posts.

  15. EV Bandit EV Bandit
    April 2, 2021    

    “I’m not sure how this post devolved in a discussion about masks — but since we’re there . . .“

    Because of three things:
    – being in a crowded place like inside of a casino is a superspreader event
    – glasses fogging up is a sign of poor fitting mask, e.g. loose mask, not wearing the mask correctly, not a good mask, etc.
    – Grosjean stated he most likely got Covid-19 at a casino.

    So we connect the ellipse. The punchline was Blitzkreig reminding us that people (like himself) are clueless about how to correctly wear masks in highly contagious places like casinos.

    I don’t know how Grosjean caught Covid-19 but “glasses fogging” is a good indicator his mask was loose fitting and could be better secured with skin tape. Think about it: if the hot breath can escape from gaps and fog up the glasses, the Covid-19 virus could enter those same gaps.

    I was wearing (and continue to wear 2 masks) when Casinos reopened in May 2020.

  16. Bob+Dancer Bob+Dancer
    April 6, 2021    

    I assume you’re at least partially exaggerating Dunbar. For that to pay off, you’d need to

    1. Be in the top five scores in the 21 Questions test. I like your chances — but it’s nowhere a lock.
    2. Survive the five-people-to-four elimination. It’s different every time.
    3. Own a big piece of yourself from the Calcutta, either by making the high bid or buying back some percentage.
    4. Assume James will have another question about the center squares. He’s had such a question two balls in a row. I assume he doesn’t want to be totally predictable.
    5. Survive in the final table until you get to the center-square question, if any.

    If that parlay comes in, it can be worth a few grand in EV. But it’s a hell of a parlay — with a significant chance that you’re drawing dead because James doesn’t have such a question this year.

    And for that it’s worth spending 3 hours a day for a year? Doubtful. Especially since if you concentrate, you can have all 16 squares mastered in a few hours. It doesn’t take long to realize that the jacks all have yellow hair, many of the squares have the suits included, etc.

  17. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    April 8, 2021    

    Michael that is crazy to hear that in a Los Angeles casino you have to get up and go to a designated area if you want a sip of water. I could see that happening out in Los Angeles but enforcing such a rule could cost the house revenue. I guess they want players to turn into camels. I would have to imagine that the poker players at the Bicycle Casino don’t follow that rule and ignore it. If they do enforce such table etiquette at the poker table I would attempt to get the dealer on my side by telling him/her that they will NOT receive any tokes from me if I have to leave the table to get a sip of water.

  18. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    April 8, 2021    

    EV Bandit casinos have always been places where people could catch the flu or whatever. It didn’t take until March of 2020 for people to realize that casinos are gold mines for bugs. What was your health protocol pre-pandemic when you would go to the casino? Did you do the things that you do now?

    The hot breath that you refer to has to escape the mask when a person exhales or a person will be taking in too much carbon dioxide gases which is bad for people, especially asthma or COPD patients who have lower FiO2 readings in their bloodstream. If you want to wear two masks at the table that is fine but does that make you any safer? Are you wearing latex or plastic gloves on your hands with your two masks while playing at the casino?

  19. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    April 8, 2021    

    EV Bandit if the author of the post were to take your advice and use skin tape to seal the top part of his mask that would totally blow his camouflage at the table because there wouldn’t be any uniformity with the people around him wearing masks. He wouldn’t blend in with the crowd anymore. He would stick out like a sore thumb, especially if the guy who uses skin tape on his mask is always beating the house. That would be the worst thing that Grosjean could do. How many people out in the wild do you see using skin tape to seal their mask? The dealers, pit bosses, and eye in the sky would put the pieces of the puzzle together quickly if the man with the skin tape on his mask starts winning big and frequently.

  20. Shoma Shoma
    April 8, 2021    

    James—i saw your comment about the odds of getting covid depending on the precautions of the casino. I have not been to a casino since covid. I am now fully vacinated. Curious as to your thoughts about whether someone who has been cautious during covid can play in a casino if fully vaccinated?

  21. Dunbar Dunbar
    April 9, 2021    

    I was completely joking, Bob. So far, no face cards have been harmed in the making of this joke. I haven’t spent even 5 minutes studying face cards since the 2020 Ball.

    You’re absolutely right about what a longshot it would be for me to make it again to the final two. And I agree that James is too creative to make a three-peat of that face card challenge likely. That said, if I were lucky enough to get that far, I’d sure hate to be stymied yet again by the face card ID’s. So, yeah, if there’s a 2022 BJ Ball and I’m invited, I’d probably revisit the face card thing a day or two before the Ball. I’ll have scissors, and I won’t be afraid to use them (although I’ll of course be careful about running with them). I’m glad to hear that a little bit of study is all that’s needed!

  22. EVBandit EVBandit
    April 9, 2021    

    Blitzkrieg:

    Good luck playing Russian Roulette with Covid-19 with your mask under your nose.

  23. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    April 14, 2021    

    EV Bandit, you play Russian Roulette everyday, you just don’t realize it. By the way, wear some skin tape on the bridge of your mask and lets see how long you last on the blackjack tables before the house picks a tick off a dog. 🙂

  24. Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg
    April 14, 2021    

    Famous last words, “When we get to the other side of this pandemic, the games will still be there.” There will be no other side to the “pandemic” the way I see it. They have the humanity right where they want it, on the brink. Now their touting variants. They don’t want to let go James. The games have always been there but the game that you knew is gone forever. There will be no going back. What people see in the casinos now is what they should become accustomed to moving forward. Most people have woken up to that realization yet but they will by 2030 I can assure you as we build back better.

  25. Dunbar Dunbar
    April 17, 2021    

    Shoma, almost everything I’ve read suggests that being fully vaccinated is extremely effective at preventing serious cases of COVID.

    This week the CDC reported that there have been about 5800 COVID cases in the approximately 75 million people who have been fully vaccinated. That’s an infection rate of less than 1 in 10,000 for those people. You can’t do an accurate efficacy without knowing more about the timing, but for comparison, there have been 2.8 million new cases of COVID in the US since March 1.

    74 fully vaccinated people have died from COVID. To put that into perspective, about 15,000 people a week are dying from other causes (in a typical pool of 75 million people).

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-about-5-800-breakthrough-infections-reported-fully-vaccinated-people-n1264186

    https://www.fox7austin.com/news/cdc-identifies-5800-covid-19-breakthrough-infections-among-75-million-fully-vaccinated-people

  26. Madison Madison
    April 27, 2021    

    “James, why haven’t you backed off Blitzkreig from your blog? he’s proven himself a clueless idiot time and time again in responding to your posts.”

    I’m sure Blitzkreig will use the Tucker Carlson/Sidney Powell defense: He lies so much that no rational person would take him seriously.

    On the other hand, it does feel nice to have him around. I’ll never be the smartest person in the room but at least I know I’ll never be the dumbest.

  27. Jimmy Jazz Jimmy Jazz
    April 28, 2021    

    It is just hard to believe that the entire world encourages mask usage but your information is somehow superior to all of that. And if you think following the best medical advice available is somehow Stockholm Syndrome, we will never agree on anything COVID related.

    If I didn’t think they did any good, I wouldn’t wear one. N95 masks were more of a supply issue early on. Mayo clinic is wrong. Johns Hopkins is wrong. Blitzkrirg is right. Makes sense to me.

  28. Dreamer Dreamer
    May 9, 2021    

    To stop you glasses fogging up I have found products like Fog buster to work very well.
    Its basically a two pack kit where you wipe on the step 1 and then finish with the step 2.
    I have found it stops fogging for around 1-2 days before you have to reapply again.
    You can buy a 60 pack from AMZ for around $15

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