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Podcast – slot AP, Prax

October 29, 2020 13 Comments Written by Richard Munchkin

Our guest this week is a professional slot AP called Prax. We talk about how he started 8 months ago, and went to making 6-figures his first year.

We welcome your questions – send them to us at [email protected], or you can find me at @RWM21 on Twitter or https://www.facebook.com/GamblingWithAnEdge.

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Show Notes

[00:00] Introduction of AP slot player, Prax
[00:33] How did Prax started in AP?
[05:32] RxGamble’s hole carding class
[13:43] Learning machine plays
[18:18] Building and maintaining a crew
[21:38] Discussion of gambling philosophy
[25:01] Mixing advanced plays with machine plays
[28:09] “Higher level machine plays”
[20:26] Forming a partnership
[31:04] Weekly miles and hours
[33:20] Attributes of a good apprentice
[36:38] South Point Casino November Promotions – Half-priced Amazon and Walmart gift cards
[37:42] Predictit.org/promo/edge – places small bets on various political outcomes, $20 deposit match for GWAE listeners

[38:24] BlackjackApprenticeship.com – card counting training site and community
[38:49] VideoPoker.com/gwae – Gold Membership offers correction on most games
[39:55] Slot hustling in Las Vegas
[42:56] Training in Europe
[48:37] Prax’s parents’ opinion of his AP lifestyle
[53:58] Van life
[55:57] Recommended – Post Modern Jukebox, Google My Maps

Sponsored Links
SouthPointCasino.com
Predictit.org/promo/edge
BlackjackApprenticeship.com
VideoPoker.com/gwae

Relevant Links:
RXGamble.com
Twitter.com/rxgamble

Books Referenced:
Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong https://amzn.to/2HJ3FlL
Gambling Wizards by Richard. W. Munchkin https://amzn.to/31O9qp2

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13 Comments

  1. Gator Gator
    November 1, 2020    

    This has been awesome, as a fellow AP Slot player I agree pretty wholeheartedly. I operate out of Vegas and it’s so tough when you walk through 15 casinos in a day and see over 50 vultures.

  2. John Herman John Herman
    November 3, 2020    

    I think this episode should have waited for April 1st.

  3. Bob Dancer Bob Dancer
    November 4, 2020    

    I guess your comment implies you don’t believe what Prax said was true. Believe that if you like. Richard and I both found what he said to be very believable. We both know some of the rudiments of advantage slot machine play and know players who make their living that way. We understand what it means to be a winning player in a casino and try to have such players on our show as guests.

  4. George Buchert George Buchert
    November 5, 2020    

    Come on, Bob, even Richard had no clue how his claims could be possible. Remember him commenting on how he had never heard of this extreme advantage slot play?

    I love the show and have literally never doubted a guest; but this guy was obviously pulling your legs.

    Did you do any research into this guy? If you did and believe him, I may retract my statement; as I do respect you and Richard.

    However, I could hear the disbelief in Richard for sure. This guy sounded far, far too good to be true with his advantage slot play. He sounded way beyond slot club profiting, progressive play, loss rebates, finding machines in positive states, etc.

    Either this guy would an unintentional software bug or he is FOS.

  5. George Buchert George Buchert
    November 5, 2020    

    Speaking of which, I would be very interested in reading a column about how you vet your guests.

    How do you keep hucksters, liars, exaggerators, touts, etc off of your airwaves?

    Any chance of an article on this?

  6. George Buchert George Buchert
    November 5, 2020    

    Speaking of which, I would be very interested in reading a column about how you vet your guests.

    How do you keep hucksters, liars, exaggerators, touts, etc off of your airwaves?

    Any chance of an article on this?

  7. George Buchert George Buchert
    November 5, 2020    

    Another great article would be about how Predictit went down on election night for hours. This caused many people to remain stuck in positions.

    When it finally came online, it was a mad dash to trade on the latest info.

  8. RWM RWM
    November 7, 2020    

    It is always hard to know for sure about a guest before they come on. Usually they get recommended by someone we know. But how well we know “someone” can vary a lot. I believe there was at least one episode in the past where we recorded it and then decided not to air it.

    Bob has to write an article every week so maybe he will pick this up as a topic.

  9. Jimmy Jazz Jimmy Jazz
    November 17, 2020    

    I’ve played some advantage play slots and the margins can be huge. Even with COVID , this has been my most profitable year yet at slots. If I were doing it full time, even knowing just what I know, 6 figures would be very achievable.

    I don’t doubt he is making a very good wage.

  10. crgrendel crgrendel
    December 16, 2020    

    It seems what Prax is doing is not what I would consider slot hustling. I walk around and check out machines that can be in an advantageous state. Like Las Vegas Lit. I can see I might need only two more spins until the seventh bonus lock spin and already am eligible for the wheel spin. No way do I need a 10 k bankroll to do that and put 10k miles on my car. It sounds like his team and him are catching banks of must hit by slots. This to me seems different than slot hustling Piggy Bankin.

  11. Richard Munchkin Richard Munchkin
    December 18, 2020    

    This seems to be a catch-all term at this point. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

  12. Jimmy Jazz Jimmy Jazz
    December 20, 2020    

    What’s in a name? Whether you are playing a Piggy Bank machine in an advantageous state or running $20K through a big must by, they are both playing machines in an advantageous state. Why should the bankroll requirement give it a different name?

    I play video poker at an advantage for quarters to dollars. Bob Dancer plays $5 and up machines. We both play at an advantage. He just plays at a much higher dollar level.

  13. Bill Granhof Bill Granhof
    January 6, 2021    

    AP slot play is as real as card counting. Not only do the best players play +EV games, but they have dozens of players cards. So, they drive around the country picking up $500 or $1,000/week in freeplay off of each card! Drawings and promotions also add up, but using players cards to your advantage is super powerful. These people aren’t just running around picking off a couple $1 spins of Ocean Magic.

    No one is pulling your leg; they just aren’t giving you complete information as to what they are doing and how/why it works.

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