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What Would I Be Doing?

May 3, 2022 5 Comments Written by Bob Dancer

I’ve been a professional video poker player for 28 years and played backgammon and blackjack semi-professionally before that. Someone asked me what I’d be doing with my life if I weren’t a professional gambler?

My initial answer was, “I have no idea.” I haven’t had a serious backup plan for decades. I’m confident that I can make money doing what I’m doing, and if I have to give it up because of some medical condition (not in the foreseeable future — but that could always change tomorrow), I have enough put away that I won’t need to work.

And then I thought back to a Luke Combs song called “Doin’ This.” I’m not really familiar with his background, but his song presents him as a good old boy and a country singer.  His life and mine are very, very different. But he said something in the song that rang true for me. Not the exact details, as his song is autobiographical, but the general idea.

Were I to be asked that same question again, I’d answer today, “About the same as I’m doing now only as a skilled hobbyist rather than a professional.”

I’m going to be playing games. Since I was a boy, I’ve competed at a variety of games. I’m good at many of them. That’s probably why I’m now a professional game player. Figuring out how to succeed at these games, and then doing it over and over again, is simply what I do.

If I didn’t file as a professional gambler on my tax return, I’d likely play for lower stakes. As many of you know, W-2Gs can cause havoc taxwise for the non-professional.

Being a skilled hobbyist is significantly different from a recreational player. A skilled hobbyist studies hard and applies himself seriously. A recreational player plays mostly for entertainment. 

It’s sort of like the difference between being a minor league baseball player and someone who plays in a co-ed slow pitch softball league. You have to be a very good player even to make the roster of a minor league baseball team. There’s no money to speak of in the minor leagues, and most of these players aren’t good enough to make it to the major leagues, but they’ve all dreamed of doing so for years. 

Most co-ed slow pitch leagues are just for fun. Meet with your friends regularly, get some exercise, and then have beer and pizza after the game. It’s an entirely different experience than playing professionally, even in the low minors.

Would I teach and write articles if I weren’t paid to do so? Possibly. I enjoy both activities and each one of them helps me maintain and improve my game. 

If I wrote those articles, I’d likely try to sell them somewhere. I could be a professional writer without being a professional gambler, I suppose. And I’d probably try to charge for the classes — either have the casino pay me or charge admission. 

All in all, it adds up to: If I weren’t doing this, I’d probably still be doing this!

Go figure!

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5 Comments

  1. Timbo Timbo
    May 3, 2022    

    Appreciate your writing and experience. Bought the books, vp card, vp software, and listen to the podcast religiously while making dinner for my wife (and you and Richard even make doing the dishes bearable). Always dreamed of going to the classes, but during my working years it always conflicted with my schedule. Hopefully some day, maybe during December Gold Week, you will offer the classes again. Thanks for all of the entertainment and knowledge.

  2. Bill Diamond Bill Diamond
    May 5, 2022    

    That was a great article.

  3. Slow Pitch Softball Hero Slow Pitch Softball Hero
    May 5, 2022    

    As much as I love VP and practice/learn with tools like VP for Winners, the reality is I’m basically playing slow pitch softball when I go to Las Vegas or other casinos. I’ve accepted it and, like other interests, probably enjoy it even more because it’s just a hobby. I have more serious/professional endeavors in other realms and understand that, while I love VP, I simply don’t have the level of interest to pursue – or even get very good at – a higher level of the game. And that’s ok. Slow pitch softball leagues are a lot of fun, after all!

  4. Bradley Davis Bradley Davis
    May 6, 2022    

    But there is a time penalty that you pay if you continue to be a professional gambler as you move into your retirement years. For myself I find that my desire to take money from casinos usually trumps other things I had in mind to do at this stage of my life.

  5. Michael Alexakis Michael Alexakis
    May 10, 2022    

    Golf and poker are my games, my passions, I play both long when I am on my game, short when I am off. To be a professional player in a skill game you must ruthlessly be honest to yourself about your shortcomings, and keep tabs, if you float around and try to take shortcuts you are doomed to fail. Bob’s game is against a meticulously tuned machine, my games are against fellow mortals, but both of our fates are reliant on our wits and discipline in crunch time. Some tables I sit at I am a prohibitive favorite to win, others I end up at my advantage is slim or none. Time is on mine and Bob’s side, it’s there for us to use or waste, the better players in any game have relentless drive to win, coupled with an ability to reflect on the truth about yourself…

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