{"id":1015,"date":"2014-07-22T21:25:28","date_gmt":"2014-07-22T21:25:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gwae.apps-1and1.com\/?p=1015"},"modified":"2014-07-22T21:25:28","modified_gmt":"2014-07-22T21:25:28","slug":"more-interesting-hands-in-bonus-poker","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/more-interesting-hands-in-bonus-poker\/","title":{"rendered":"More Interesting Hands in Bonus Poker"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I memorized 9\/6 Jacks perfectly almost 20 years ago. (I knew the strategy very well before that, but there were some rare hands that nobody had written about and it took me a while to find them all.) It&#8217;s fairly simple, as video poker games go, and the exceptions aren&#8217;t numerous or difficult. Additionally, I&#8217;ve played 9\/6 Jacks for perhaps 2000 hours and taught the game in class close to 100 times. Given all of that, I suspect I&#8217;ll have the game memorized for as long as I&#8217;m mentally competent.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>8\/5 Bonus Poker is very similar to 9\/6 Jacks. While it only returns 99.17%, it often is the best game available at some casinos. Occasionally the slot club and promotions are such that the game is playable. While similar to 9\/6 Jacks, the exceptions are numerous and, for me, not so easy to learn.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to write about one group of hands today that I haven&#8217;t written about for years. These hands don&#8217;t come about that frequently and the difference between the best play and the second best play isn&#8217;t all that much, but if you&#8217;re trying to learn the game perfectly, this group of hands is on that list.<\/p>\n<p>First, it involves the 3-card straight flush combinations with one inside and no high cards. The group I&#8217;ll call &#8220;2-low&#8221; includes <b><i>234<\/i><\/b>,<b><i> 235<\/i><\/b>, and <b><i>245<\/i><\/b>. The group I&#8217;ll call &#8220;3-low&#8221; includes <b><i>346<\/i><\/b> and <b><i>356<\/i><\/b>. The value of each of these combinations is the same &#8212; usually. The most significant time that these combinations differ in value is when there is an off-suit ace in the hand.<\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking, these particular 3-card straight flushes are higher in value than an ace. An ace lowers the value of <b><i>235<\/i><\/b> by 7\u00bd\u00a2 for the 5-coin dollar player compared to its effect on <b><i>346<\/i><\/b>. The reason is that there is one fewer ace in the deck to draw the $20 A2345 straight.<\/p>\n<p>The ace itself gets reduced in value by about 0.5\u00a2facing <b><i>235<\/i><\/b> compared to <b><i>346<\/i><\/b>. The reason is it is more difficult to draw the A2345 straight when there are three missing cards (with <b><i>235<\/i><\/b>) than when there are only two missing cards (with <b>346<\/b>). Another way to say this is the 6 (from <b><i>346<\/i><\/b>) does not affect the value of the ace but all three cards from <b><i>235<\/i><\/b> hurt the value of an ace.<\/p>\n<p>Once we have these four cards determined (i.e. the 3-card straight flush and the ace), there is still a fifth card to be considered. We will not consider any fifth card that creates a pair; is a J, Q, or K suited with the ace; turns the 3-card straight flush into a 4-card flush; or creates a 4-card open-ended straight.<\/p>\n<p>Even ignoring those cards, there are still quite a few differences. A key one is whether or not the fifth card is suited with the ace (referred to as a flush penalty). It also matters if the fifth card is an unsuited J, Q, K, or even a T. Or if the fifth card is a straight penalty to the straight flush (i.e., a 6 for the 2-low straight flush and a 2 or 7 for the 3-low straight flush).<\/p>\n<p>Below we have seven comparisons of a 2-low versus a 3-low straight flush, along with an ace and another card. Sometimes the play is the same; sometimes not. Take this quiz and see how you do:<\/p>\n<p>a. 2\u2660 3\u2660 5\u2660 A\u2665 J\u2663 versus 3\u2660 4\u2660 6\u2660 A\u2665 J\u2663<\/p>\n<p>b. 2\u2660 3\u2660 5\u2660 A\u2665 T\u2665 versus 3\u2660 4\u2660 6\u2660 A\u2665 T\u2665<\/p>\n<p>c. 2\u2660 3\u2660 5\u2660 A\u2665 T\u2663 versus 3\u2660 4\u2660 6\u2660 A\u2665 T\u2663<\/p>\n<p>d. 2\u2660 3\u2660 5\u2660 A\u2665 9\u2665 versus 3\u2660 4\u2660 6\u2660 A\u2665 9\u2665<\/p>\n<p>e. 2\u2660 3\u2660 5\u2660 A\u2665 9\u2663 versus 3\u2660 4\u2660 6\u2660 A\u2665 9\u2663<\/p>\n<p>f. 2\u2660 3\u2660 5\u2660 A\u2665 6\u2665 versus 3\u2660 4\u2660 6\u2660 A\u2665 7\u2665<\/p>\n<p>g. 2\u2660 3\u2660 5\u2660 A\u2665 6\u2663 versus 3\u2660 4\u2660 6\u2660 A\u2665 7\u2663<\/p>\n<p>Here are the correct plays. My guess is that less than 1 in 20 of readers got them all correct:<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>2-low<\/td>\n<td>3-low<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>a. AJ unsuited<\/td>\n<td>AJ<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>b. AT suited<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>c. AT unsuited<\/td>\n<td>A<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>d. A9 suited<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>e. A9 unsuited<\/td>\n<td>A<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>f. A and a straight penalty suited<\/td>\n<td>A<\/td>\n<td>SF<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>g. A and a straight penalty unsuited<\/td>\n<td>A<\/td>\n<td>A<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>With those correct plays, how do you write it on your strategy card? On the Dancer-Daily strategy card for 8-5 Bonus we wrote:<\/p>\n<p>SF3 -1 (&lt;AH when 2-low) (&lt;A when sp unsuited with A and no high card other than A) (&lt;A when 2-low and either {no fp to A} or {6p suited-or-not with A}) AH<\/p>\n<p>There are abbreviations here which are explained in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shoplva.com\/products\/winners-guides-set-of-6\" target=\"_blank\"><em><strong>Winner&#8217;s Guides<\/strong><\/em><\/a>, in the insert to the strategy cards, and in my classes. If you want to have correct play explained to you, pretty much the <em><strong>Winner&#8217;s Guides<\/strong><\/em> are required reading.<\/p>\n<p>There are not a lot of people interested in learning the fine points perfectly. But with the edge at video poker as small as it is, I want to learn each game as well as I can. 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