{"id":120373,"date":"2019-12-03T09:30:03","date_gmt":"2019-12-03T17:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/?p=120373"},"modified":"2019-12-03T09:30:11","modified_gmt":"2019-12-03T17:30:11","slug":"you-want-me-to-play-to-lose-100","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/you-want-me-to-play-to-lose-100\/","title":{"rendered":"You Want Me to Play to Lose $100?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

I was playing 25\u00a2 Five Play 9\/6 Jacks or Better Multi Strike at the South Point during their \u201cHalf Price Amazon Gift Cards\u201d promotion in November. A friend, \u201cGeorge\u201d, sat down next to me. And later still his wife joined us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I didn\u2019t notice how much George put in to start. Early on he hit a $1,000 royal flush on the bottom line and then later a $250 four-of-a-kind on an 8x line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After a while, George\u2019s wife commented that her shoulder was bothering her. George took that as a suggestion that she wished to leave and went to cash out. I noticed that he had $3,095 worth of credits on his machine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I suggested he play a few more hands (at $25 per) and likely he\u2019d get his credits lower than $3,000 sooner or later. He was aghast. \u201cYou want me to play to lose $100? That makes no sense to me. Why should I do that?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The reason is that if the ticket is $2,999.99 or less, you can cash it out at the ATM machine. If it is $3,000.01 or more, you must take it to the cage. If it is exactly $3,000, I\u2019m not sure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For a ticket over $3,000, they ask to see your ID and your player\u2019s card and they call over the slot shift manager to verify that you came by the ticket lawfully. Once all the i\u2019s are dotted and t\u2019s crossed, they pay you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Players should try to avoid this if they can. The South Point, like almost every other casino, restricts players who win too much. Having your name on the list of someone who cashed out for more than $3,000 can\u2019t do you any good. It may eventually affect your welcome. I actually don\u2019t know for a fact that it does matter, but why risk it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Assuming you\u2019re a reasonably strong player, you never know how close you are to being removed. In my opinion, taking precautions to stay slightly more anonymous is the better play.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Could he have refused to show his ID? Probably. There are no legal requirements for showing ID for cashouts of less than $10,000. But video poker players who regularly get W2Gs are used to showing their ID in a casino. For us, it\u2019s not a particularly big deal. For table game players who play unrated, this could potentially be a big deal. But playing unrated is no way to get Amazon gift cards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

To me, this was not \u201closing $100.\u201d George was approximately half-way through the $83,340 coin-in he was planning on playing during the month to get $500 in Amazon gift cards.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The score on every video poker machine goes up and down. Five Play Multi Strike has a higher-than-average variance, so your score goes up and down even more. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

It doesn\u2019t matter, to me anyway, what my score is today. I\u2019m concerned about a much longer time horizon than just today. If George played 20 more hands (earning 500 additional points) and his score dipped by $100, that would be a better time to cash out and that would mean he had 500 fewer points to earn for the month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If it happened that he hit another $1,000 royal flush right away (not likely, but possible) or if it took more than five minutes to get his score below $3,000, I wouldn\u2019t have said anything if he wanted to cash out. After all, his wife \u201csort of\u201d asked to go, and happy wife-happy life.
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Note:  I passed this by \u201cGeorge.\u201d He said this time they did ask to see his player\u2019s card, which they took away and presumably made a photo copy of it, but not his ID. He said it took about 10 minutes. He commented that his biggest takeaway from this is that next time his credits get about $2,500 in this casino, he should simply record the score and cash out. If he wants to continue playing, he can just insert however much he wants. It avoids the \u201cproblems\u201d outlined in this article.<\/em>
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