{"id":123252,"date":"2022-09-15T16:10:01","date_gmt":"2022-09-15T23:10:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/?page_id=123252"},"modified":"2024-01-25T11:55:00","modified_gmt":"2024-01-25T19:55:00","slug":"blackjack-in-oregon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/blackjack-in-oregon\/","title":{"rendered":"Blackjack in Oregon"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h4>Way-Out West Coast Blackjack<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>by Arnold Snyder<\/strong><br>(First published in\u00a0<em>Card Player,<\/em>\u00a0April 1994)<br>\u00a9 1994 Arnold Snyder<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Question from a Player:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Here in Oregon we have a five-dollar limit game. We have basic Nevada rules, with one exception. The dealer takes 17 pushes. What is your opinion on how this changes the odds?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;Stay away from this game (unless you\u2019re the dealer!). If the dealer wins on tied 17s the house gains 1.7%.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My understanding of the Oregon games is that they are player banked. I haven&#8217;t played blackjack in Oregon yet, but if this means that rotating players take turns being the house, you may find it beneficial to act as the house as frequently as possible. If it is possible to bank the game more than your \u201cfair share,\u201d i.e., because other players at the table do not want to bank the game, or cannot afford to bank the game, then you might find a rule like this to be very beneficial. At a crowded table, even with that $5 limit, you could earn a tidy little hourly income from such a game. Nor would you have to fear card counters since card counters would not be able to beat this rule without a fairly large spread \u2014 which is precluded by that $5 limit! In this case, it would probably be wise for you to learn the basic strategy changes for this rule (see Stanford Wong&#8217;s&nbsp;<em>Basic Blackjack<\/em>) so that you can play as correctly as possible when you do not have the deal, if it is necessary for you to stay at the table and play in order to get your turn to bank again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Your most profitable strategy in this game would be to look for a table where most of the players are betting the $5 maximum most of the time. When you are not dealing, bet the table minimum if you must stay and play until you get the deal again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another consideration, and a very important one, is whether or not the dealer\/banker must follow a fixed strategy, as is commonly done in all normal house-banked casino blackjack games. Again, I am unfamiliar with Oregon\u2019s rules. In some player-banked private games, dealers are not required to follow a fixed strategy. A game like this is very dangerous, and is really more akin to poker than to blackjack. The 1.7% house advantage for the dealer-takes-tied-17s rule is only applicable if the dealer must follow a traditional house blackjack strategy. If the dealer may play his hand however he chooses, then there is no fixed advantage or disadvantage for any rule variation. &nbsp;\u2660<\/p>\n<a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-facebook nolightbox\" data-provider=\"facebook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Follow us on Facebook\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/lasvegasadvisor\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"Facebook\" title=\"Follow us on Facebook\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/facebook.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-twitter nolightbox\" data-provider=\"twitter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Follow us on Twitter\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LVA_Tweet\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"twitter\" title=\"Follow us on Twitter\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/twitter.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-youtube nolightbox\" data-provider=\"youtube\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Find us on YouTube\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/LasVegasAdvisorSHOW\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"youtube\" title=\"Find us on YouTube\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/youtube.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-instagram nolightbox\" data-provider=\"instagram\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Check out our instagram feed\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lasvegasadvisor\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;\"><img alt=\"instagram\" title=\"Check out our instagram feed\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/instagram.png\" \/><\/a>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Way-Out West Coast Blackjack by Arnold Snyder(First published in\u00a0Card Player,\u00a0April 1994)\u00a9 1994 Arnold Snyder Question from a Player:\u00a0\u00a0Here in Oregon we have a five-dollar limit game. We have basic Nevada rules, with one exception. The dealer takes 17 pushes. What is your opinion on how this changes the odds? 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