{"id":123358,"date":"2022-09-17T11:17:30","date_gmt":"2022-09-17T18:17:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/?page_id=123358"},"modified":"2024-01-25T11:55:33","modified_gmt":"2024-01-25T19:55:33","slug":"red-7-vs-hi-lo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/red-7-vs-hi-lo\/","title":{"rendered":"Red 7 vs Hi-Lo"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h5>Six Deck Unbalanced Red 7 Running Count Conversion to Equivalent Hi-Lo Balanced True Count and Sensitivity of True Count to Errors in Estimating Decks Remaining<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>by Conrad Membrino<br>(From\u00a0<em>Blackjack Forum<\/em>\u00a0Vol. XVII #4, Winter 1997)<br>\u00a9 Blackjack Forum 1997<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><strong>rc.u = 23456p + (7p\/2) &#8211; TAp<\/strong><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Red-7 is almost equivalent to hi-lo count + counting all the sevens as (1\/2) each.<br>rc.u = unbalanced running count = 23456+ (7p\/2) &#8211; TAp<br>tc.b = balanced true count<br>n = number of decks<br>dp = decks played<br>dr = decks remaining<br>rc.u(tc.b) = unbalanced running count corresponding to a balance true count of tc.b<br>rc.hl = hi=lo running count = 23456p &#8211; TAp<br>rc.u = hi-lo + (7p)\/2<br>if hi-lo has a true count of &#8220;t&#8221; then rc.hl = t*dr and<br><br><strong>rc.u = rc.hl + ExpVal(7p)\/2 = t*dr + 2*dp = (t+2-2)*dr + 2*dp = (t-2)*dr + 2*n<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><strong>rc.u = 2*n + (tc.b &#8211; 2) * dr<\/strong><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Number of Decks = 6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Red-7 Running Counts Corresponding to Various True Counts for a Six Deck Game<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>Six Deck Game<\/td><td>rc.unbal<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>rc.unbal = 23456 + (7p\/2) &#8211; TAp<\/td><td>decks played<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>tc.bal<\/td><td>rc.unbal<\/td><td>1<\/td><td>2<\/td><td>3<\/td><td>4<\/td><td>5<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>0<\/td><td>12 &#8211; 2*dr<\/td><td>2<\/td><td>4<\/td><td>6<\/td><td>8<\/td><td>10<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1<\/td><td>12 &#8211; dr<\/td><td>7<\/td><td>8<\/td><td>9<\/td><td>10<\/td><td>11<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>2<\/td><td>12<\/td><td>12<\/td><td>12<\/td><td>12<\/td><td>12<\/td><td>12<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>3<\/td><td>12 + dr<\/td><td>17<\/td><td>16<\/td><td>15<\/td><td>14<\/td><td>13<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>4<\/td><td>12 + 2*dr<\/td><td>22<\/td><td>20<\/td><td>18<\/td><td>16<\/td><td>14<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sensitivity of True Count to Errors in Estimating Decks Remaining<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><u>Estimation of True Count Using the Red 7:<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>rc.r7 = red 7 running count<\/td><td>n = number of decks<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>tc = true count<\/td><td>dr = decks remaining<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><strong>rc.r7 = 2*n + (tc &#8211; 2) * dr<\/strong><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Number of Decks = 8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Red-7 Running Counts Corresponding to Various<br>True Counts for an Eight Deck Game<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>Eight Deck Game<\/td><td>rc.r7<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>rc.r7 = 23456 + (7p\/2) &#8211; TAp<\/td><td>decks played<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>tc<\/td><td>rc.r7<\/td><td>3<\/td><td>4<\/td><td>5<\/td><td>6<\/td><td>7<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>2<\/td><td>16<\/td><td>16<\/td><td>16<\/td><td>16<\/td><td>16<\/td><td>16<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>3<\/td><td>16 + dr<\/td><td>21<\/td><td>20<\/td><td>19<\/td><td>18<\/td><td>17<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>4<\/td><td>16 + 2*dr<\/td><td>26<\/td><td>24<\/td><td>22<\/td><td>20<\/td><td>18<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><u>Estimation of true count with the Red 7<br>in an Eight Deck Game:<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li>Estimate decks remaining<\/li><li>Compare Red 7 running count with 16, 16 + dr, or 16 + 2*dr for true counts of 2, 3, or 4<\/li><li>Use calculated true count with High-Low strategy indices.*<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>(*Ed. Note: Membrino is suggesting here that you may use this true count method not only to estimate your advantage, but also to alter your strategy with all Hi-Lo strategy indices. This is not the way I have developed the Red 7 in the new Blackbelt, but if you used a Starting Count of 0, then you could use this true count methology with any standard set of Hi-Lo count-per-deck indices. &#8211;Arnold Snyder)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><u>Sensitivity of True Count to Errors<br>in Estimating Decks Remaining:<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li>The closer to the pivot point, the less sensitive the true count is to errors in estimating the decks remaining.<\/li><li>At the pivot point, the true count is independent of the decks remaining<\/li><li>Pivot Point of the Red 7: True Count = 2<\/li><li>Pivot Point of Hi-Lo: True Count = 0<\/li><li>At True Counts \u2265 2:<br>(a) Red 7 is closer to its pivot point (tc=2) than the Hi-Lo is to its pivot point (tc=0)<br>(b) Red 7 is less sensitive to errors in estimating decks remaining when calculating true count.<br>(c) Red 7 gives more accurate true counts than Hi-Lo.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>A = Actual<\/td><td>E = Estimated<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>dr:a = actual dr<\/td><td>dr:e = estimated dr<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>tc:a = actual tc<\/td><td>tc:e = estimated tc<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Eight Decks<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>r7 = red 7<\/td><td>hl = hi-lo<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>tc.r7 = 2 + (rc.r7 &#8211; 16)\/dr<\/td><td>tc.hl = rc.hl\/dr<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Eight Decks<br><u>dr:a = 4 and tc:a = 3<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>Red 7<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>Hi-Lo<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>estimated<\/td><td>error<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>estimated<\/td><td>error<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>dr:e<\/td><td>rc.r7<\/td><td>tc:e<\/td><td>(tc:e &#8211; tc:a)<\/td><td>rc.hl<\/td><td>tc:e<\/td><td>(tc:e &#8211; tc:a)<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>6<\/td><td>20<\/td><td>2.7<\/td><td>-0.3<\/td><td>12<\/td><td>2.0<\/td><td>-1.0<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>5<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>2.8<\/td><td>-0.2<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>2.4<\/td><td>-0.6<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>4<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>3.0<\/td><td>0.0<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>3.0<\/td><td>0.0<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>3<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>3.3<\/td><td>0.3<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>4.0<\/td><td>1.0<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>2<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>4.0<\/td><td>1.0<\/td><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td>6.0<\/td><td>3.0<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n<a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-facebook nolightbox\" data-provider=\"facebook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Follow us on Facebook\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/lasvegasadvisor\" style=\"font-size: 0px; 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