{"id":1254,"date":"2012-06-05T17:09:41","date_gmt":"2012-06-05T17:09:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gwae.apps-1and1.com\/?p=1254"},"modified":"2012-06-05T17:09:41","modified_gmt":"2012-06-05T17:09:41","slug":"a-quick-and-slightly-different-take-on-tipping","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/a-quick-and-slightly-different-take-on-tipping\/","title":{"rendered":"A Quick (and slightly different) Take on Tipping"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Every now and then I get a question about tipping. Somebody hit a 50\u00a2 royal flush and wanted to know how much to tip on the $2,000 jackpot. He actually tipped $20 and wanted to know if that was too much or too little. Although everybody has a different formula for this, most folks would consider tipping 1% on such a jackpot to be in the &#8216;reasonable&#8217; range. I think it&#8217;s the wrong question.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>A 50\u00a2 royal is a pretty rare&#8211;every 40,000+ hands&#8211;event. Tipping $5, $10, $20, or even $40 for such an event doesn&#8217;t affect your EV very much because it happens so rarely.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re playing a $5 or $10 game, you&#8217;re probably getting hand pays every 400 hands. This is 100 times as often as you&#8217;re getting them on 50\u00a2 machines. The amount you tip here makes a HUGE difference in your EV.<\/p>\n<p>Do the math: A $20 tip on an every 40,000-hand event is the proportional equivalent of a 20\u00a2 tip on an every 400-hand event (i.e., 20\u00a2 is 1\/100th of $20 and a 400-hand event is 1\/100th of a 40,000-hand event). And tipping 20\u00a2 will tick off casino employees worse than tipping zero.<\/p>\n<p>As a percent of total bet, tipping $1 on a jackpot earned while playing $10 games is comparable to tipping $20 on a 50\u00a2 jackpot. Tipping $1 on a jackpot will give you strange looks but it will probably be accepted with a &#8220;thank you,&#8221; albeit perhaps sarcastically. If this is the amount you deem appropriate, it&#8217;s probably better to stiff them nine times and give then $10 the tenth.<\/p>\n<p>I care about EV and as such I look at tipping as a proportion of total bet, not the amount of the jackpot.<\/p>\n<p>The other factor to consider is how often you play. A $10 player could be getting 100 times the number of hand-pay jackpots of a 50\u00a2 player who plays as many hands. But if the $10 player is a pro and the 50\u00a2 player is an occasional recreational player, the $10 player is getting thousands of times the number of hand-pay jackpots simply because the pro plays a lot more hands.<\/p>\n<p>In this scenario, the 50\u00a2 royal may well be a once-every-two-year event. A once-every-two-year royal is VERY exciting. Folks tend to tip more when they are really excited. For someone who gets 100 hand-pays a month, however, each one is not such a big deal. It makes sense to tip less in this kind of situation&#8230;if at all.<\/p>\n<p>Although it varies quite a bit depending on the availability of games, I typically receive between $4 million and $10 million in W-2Gs annually. Tipping 1% of that would be $40,000 &#8211; $100,000 per year. Forget about it! That&#8217;s not going to happen. More than once that would have turned a winning year into a losing year.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve heard folks say, &#8220;If I had the money to play $25 machines, I&#8217;d definitely tip well.&#8221; Perhaps. Talk is cheap when it&#8217;s unlikely you will ever be in such a position. If and when you actually get into that position, you&#8217;ll find the world looks a lot different than you thought it would beforehand.<\/p>\n<p>And it remains much easier to tell others what they should do with their lives rather than figure out what&#8217;s best for your own life.<\/p>\n<a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-facebook nolightbox\" data-provider=\"facebook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Follow us on Facebook\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/lasvegasadvisor\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"Facebook\" title=\"Follow us on Facebook\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/facebook.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-twitter nolightbox\" data-provider=\"twitter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Follow us on Twitter\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LVA_Tweet\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"twitter\" title=\"Follow us on Twitter\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/twitter.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-youtube nolightbox\" data-provider=\"youtube\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Find us on YouTube\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/LasVegasAdvisorSHOW\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"youtube\" title=\"Find us on YouTube\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/youtube.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-instagram nolightbox\" data-provider=\"instagram\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Check out our instagram feed\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lasvegasadvisor\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;\"><img alt=\"instagram\" title=\"Check out our instagram feed\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/instagram.png\" \/><\/a>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Every now and then I get a question about tipping. 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