{"id":50841,"date":"2018-05-08T09:24:58","date_gmt":"2018-05-08T16:24:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/?p=50841"},"modified":"2018-05-10T14:32:07","modified_gmt":"2018-05-10T21:32:07","slug":"do-aps-cheat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/do-aps-cheat\/","title":{"rendered":"Do APs Cheat?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Internet forums, by their nature, are filled with disparate opinions. Recently, another blogger in the <em>LVA<\/em> stable\u00a0wrote a comment in response to a blog I posted in late March. He disagreed with me. And, as you&#8217;ll see,\u00a0I disagree with his disagreement.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: red;\">The distinction you\u2019re missing is that advantage play almost never violates the casino\u2019s rules, written or implied. A player playing a VP machine or blackjack well is not playing it any differently from anyone else, except he\/she is making better decisions. There\u2019s no rule against that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It must be nice to live in such a world where everybody in the group you identify with is a good guy! Especially when you\u2019re a quarter player and have no idea of what goes on at higher stakes<\/p>\n<p>Advantage play consists of regularly beating the casino. The players who do this tend to be smarter than average, sneakier than average, and more knowledgeable than average about casino games. Each player goes about being an AP in a slightly different way.<\/p>\n<p>Such players see the casino as their adversary. It\u2019s not a huge stretch for them to see the casino as their enemy &#8212; and against whom all sorts of things are fair game.<\/p>\n<p>Some of us attempt to play fair. I do, at least at this point in my life. Years ago, when I was hungrier and had less to lose, I cut some corners that I wouldn\u2019t cut today. I cannot say I always walked the straight and narrow. Can you?<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s look at some areas where APs haven\u2019t been known to have the highest integrity.<br \/>\nAt some casinos, it\u2019s okay to play on your spouse\u2019s player\u2019s card, and some where even that is frowned upon. There are players who shuffle 30 or more cards at a casino.<\/p>\n<p>If you receive comped tickets and give them away to family members, surely it\u2019s well within the spirit with which they were given. But if you receive comped tickets and sell them, then that\u2019s considered over-the-line. Same with extra hotel rooms.<\/p>\n<p>In some table games, it\u2019s against the rules to show others your cards. Some players do. Some players develop elaborate systems to reveal their cards to teammates at the same table.<\/p>\n<p>What if you\u2019re playing two machines, telling others that you\u2019re holding the second machine for your wife who is upstairs. What if she is actually nowhere nearby, but you say the same thing?<\/p>\n<p>One casino has drawings where you do not have to be present, but you need to claim before midnight or the prize is forfeited. Players form groups and text the winning numbers to each other. This may not be illegal, but it is certainly against what the casino had in mind.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re on vacation and cannot pick up your free play, the casino wants you to forfeit it. Many players allow their friends to pick it up for them.<\/p>\n<p>An AP will at least consider all of these things. Many everyday players won\u2019t even think of them. Some of these things are perfectly legal; some are gray areas; some are definitely over-the-line. Whatever line the courts decide is the right one, there will always be players stepping over that line.<\/p>\n<p>I believe APs are better than lesser players at figuring out these things. Once figured out, some APs cross the lines and some don\u2019t. There is no way to say that \u201cAll APs xxxxx\u201d and be accurate. 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Recently, another blogger in the LVA stable\u00a0wrote a comment in response to a blog I posted in late March. He disagreed with me. And, as you&#8217;ll see,\u00a0I disagree with his disagreement. The distinction you\u2019re missing is that advantage play almost never violates the casino\u2019s rules, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":6498,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false},"categories":[29,2],"tags":[570,428,196],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v16.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Do APS Cheat?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Advantage play consists of regularly beating the casino. 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