{"id":6074,"date":"2017-06-13T11:19:18","date_gmt":"2017-06-13T18:19:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/?p=6074"},"modified":"2017-06-14T11:54:47","modified_gmt":"2017-06-14T18:54:47","slug":"youre-not-poker-player","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/youre-not-poker-player\/","title":{"rendered":"You\u2019re Not a Poker Player"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In early June, Bonnie and I were at a square dancing workshop and there was this guy, Scott from Alabama, who showed up. He had played a few days before at the Colossus event in the World Series of Poker, did well enough to get his money back plus $500, and was killing time before his flight back home. He had arranged his stay through the last day of the Colossus in case he made it that far. He hadn\u2019t, but that was why he was still in town. Square dancing events are publicized if you know where to look, so he found us and danced. He was very welcome.<\/p>\n<p>The Colossus is a $565 buy-in tournament with starting flights over several days. Re-entries are allowed. He was very proud of the fact that he cashed in his first WSOP event, which gave him the confidence to come back next year. He had to tell me, of course, about the hand he blew out on and that he was ahead until his opponent paired on the river.<\/p>\n<p>I asked him if he had considered re-entering and he said, \u201cNo.\u00a0 If I\u2019m not a good enough player to win on my first try, I\u2019m not going to throw good money after bad.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I told him that I didn\u2019t know anything about his personal bankroll, but that didn\u2019t make any sense to me. He probably had $500 in expenses to get to and stay in Vegas for five days. That made his first entry cost $1,065. His re-entry would cost \u201conly\u201d $565, or basically half price since he was already in Vegas. If the first one was a good deal for him to enter, re-entry must be a great deal. Why come back next year and pay another $1,065 and not get the same equity right now for only $565?<\/p>\n<p>In any tournament with several thousand entries (there were 18,000+ entries in this year\u2019s Colossus), there is a considerable amount of luck insofar as how long each player lasts. The hand where he blew out (in 400<sup>th<\/sup> place or so) could have easily happened much earlier and he would have gotten nothing at all. No less skill on his part. Just the luck of the draw.<\/p>\n<p>You can\u2019t conclude, I argued, that just because you cashed this time that you are a good player or just because you didn\u2019t cash any particular time that you\u2019re a bad player. No player cashes every event. Your record over a whole lot of tournaments says a lot about your skill. Your result in a single tournament says very little.<\/p>\n<p>He asked if I was a poker player. I told him no, that I was a video poker player, but that I\u2019ve been a successful gambler for several decades and believe I have some knowledge and experience about how it all works.<\/p>\n<p>He informed me that since I wasn\u2019t a poker player, I really didn\u2019t know what I was talking about and he didn\u2019t want to discuss it anymore. Okay. A square dancing event is mostly a social activity and if he didn\u2019t want to \u201ctalk shop,\u201d that was fine with me. I went over and spoke to someone else. Whether or not I could get him to agree with me was not something I cared about very much. He had never heard of me and self-professed video poker experts are not people he considers worth listening to.<\/p>\n<p>But you, my reader, I do care whether you agree with me or not. I assume you accept that I am generally knowledgeable about these things or you wouldn\u2019t be reading this blog.<\/p>\n<p>This is another case of paying undue attention to short term results. This example looks a bit different in live poker than it does in video poker, but the principle is the same. 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