{"id":922,"date":"2014-11-25T18:58:00","date_gmt":"2014-11-25T18:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gwae.apps-1and1.com\/?p=922"},"modified":"2014-11-25T18:58:00","modified_gmt":"2014-11-25T18:58:00","slug":"checking-out-the-downtown-grand","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/checking-out-the-downtown-grand\/","title":{"rendered":"Checking out the Downtown Grand"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I don&#8217;t read a newspaper. I pay attention to the news, but get it online. Bonnie has subscribed to the Las Vegas Review-Journal for 20 years and reads it daily.<\/p>\n<p>She is not particularly savvy about gambling offers, but she cuts out many of them and places them in my office. Mostly I either already know about the offers and\/or am not interested. Occasionally, however, she comes across something I didn&#8217;t know about. One of those times was an ad for the Downtown Grand.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Frankly, I&#8217;d never heard of the Downtown Grand. It turns out it&#8217;s in the hip new section of downtown, where new bars and nightclubs are popping up. Since I&#8217;m not a bar or nightclub guy, and gambling downtown has been too far away for nothing special, I haven&#8217;t been down there for a while.<\/p>\n<p>The ad said, however, &#8220;We&#8217;ll match your casino offer up to $300.&#8221; Well that&#8217;s different! Now it&#8217;s only 12 miles away &#8212; almost right around the corner!<\/p>\n<p>Turns out it was the old Lady Luck &#8212; somewhat modernized. Not totally modernized. It still looks and feels like a downtown casino &#8212; somewhat old and shabby, although it has new carpet and its lack of a &#8220;downtown smell&#8221; is refreshing.<\/p>\n<p>I searched a few machines. Although I later heard that they have 8-5 Bonus (99.2%), I didn&#8217;t find those machines. Mostly they had games tighter than that. In the high limit room I found $1, $2, $5 single line 9-6 Double Double Bonus (99.0%) so that&#8217;s what I played.<\/p>\n<p>They honored my mailer up to $300 &#8212; and kept the mailer (this wasn&#8217;t critical to me. I gave them my Palms mailer and I already recorded when to pick up food and free play and it&#8217;s basically the same pattern every month there. But if you showed them a M mailer, for example, where you get some kind of offer almost every day and it&#8217;s a different pattern every month, you should consider making a copy of the mailer before you give it to them.) I learned it took $2 coin-in to earn 3 points and you can redeem 1,000 points for $1 (0.15%) Today (a Thursday) was 5x points (totaling 0.75%) either because it was my first day or because I was a senior. These numbers aren&#8217;t attractive when the top game returns 99.0% (which is what I thought at the time.)<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t want to totally stiff them because you never know what&#8217;s coming in the mail. They had a first-day offer where for 2,000 points ($1,335 coin-in) you earn $30 in free play, your 10,000 points are worth $10, plus you get a T-shirt and a hooded sweatshirt (don&#8217;t need more of either.) Since $1,335 coin-in on 9\/6 DDB has an expected loss of $14 (with big swings!) I decided to go ahead and play. It wasn&#8217;t a very high expected earning rate, but I wanted to give them SOME play, so I did.<\/p>\n<p>When I went back to the booth (the lines were rather long but they had three booth workers and the lines flowed), I had the $30 placed on my card, was told that I could download the $10 worth of points at the machine without booth intervention, and was given the garments.<\/p>\n<p>Surprisingly I was also told I had earned $50 in food and they told me the restaurants where the food comps would be honored. Bonnie and I had eaten a buffet elsewhere two hours previously, but the food comp was also good for food &#8220;to go,&#8221; so I drank a cup of coffee and read a book while waiting for the food.<\/p>\n<p>I get enough casino food at a variety of casinos, but this was food at a 3.75% rate based on coin-in. If you&#8217;re someone who needs to pay retail for food, this is very generous. I don&#8217;t know if this was a &#8220;first day special&#8221; or this is their standard rate.<\/p>\n<p>Had I played 5,000 points on my first day ($3,335) I would have earned two room nights &#8212; presumably any night of the week. &#8212; in addition to the free play and garments. At 8-5 Bonus, this has an expected cost of $30 or so (before including $22.50 in &#8220;cash back&#8221; free play when it&#8217;s 5x points along with the other sign-up bonuses.) This makes it a decent low-roller offer for tourists.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s coming in the mail. With only $1,335 in coin-in, I doubt it&#8217;s very much. And I&#8217;m not going to drive that far for $10 free play offers. But who knows? 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