{"id":99673,"date":"2019-01-15T09:32:57","date_gmt":"2019-01-15T17:32:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/?p=99673"},"modified":"2019-01-15T09:32:57","modified_gmt":"2019-01-15T17:32:57","slug":"story-frank-kneeland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/story-frank-kneeland\/","title":{"rendered":"A Story from Frank Kneeland"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For the first six months of the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Gambling with an Edge<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> podcast, my co-host was Frank Kneeland. One of Frank\u2019s claims to fame, video-poker-wise, was that he managed a large team of video poker players for two years in the early 1990s. On one of the shows, about six years ago, Frank told a story about a player on his team way back then.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Video poker teams at the time primarily chased progressives. If a game was breakeven at $8,000, his team might start playing at $11,000 or so (every team had its own strike numbers.) The team members would get a $10\/hour \u201csalary\u201d and some percent of the royal if they hit it. The royal money would go to the team owner, who would pay all the taxes &#8212; minus the expenses of paying his team members. The tax laws have changed since then, and video poker teams are far less common than they were then.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I may have a few of the details incorrect in the story, but I\u2019m sure I have the gist correct. I\u2019m sharing it because it provides a lesson today <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The player involved, \u201cJoe,\u201d had played on Frank\u2019s team for several months. As far as Frank was concerned, Joe was the perfect employee. Joe would show up when called and stay as long as needed. Some players are \u201chigh maintenance.\u201d Not Joe. He quietly played and rarely had any special requests.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One day Joe asked Frank if he was about to be fired. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cFired?\u201d Frank asked. \u201cYou\u2019re one of my best employees! Why would I fire you?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cBecause I\u2019ve never hit a royal flush, and obviously the success of your business depends on hitting royal flushes. Since I can\u2019t seem to do that, you must think of me as an undesirable employee.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHardly!\u201d Frank replied. \u201cI really don\u2019t care who hits the royal. That\u2019s all pretty random. But if I have enough competent players playing when the progressive is high enough, I\u2019ll end up ahead. So just keep doing what you\u2019re doing and don\u2019t worry about it.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why do I bring this up today? After all, I hardly ever play progressives.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Because there are a lot of players really concerned about their score. If they are ahead, they figure they are pretty good. If they are behind, they figure the opposite. (Of course, players who don\u2019t keep track of how much they are ahead or behind don\u2019t need to worry about this. They have other problems we\u2019ll address another time.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The key to success, as Frank realized, is playing when you have the advantage. That edge can come from the game itself (as it did back then) or from the slot club, mailers, promotions, or sometimes other things. If you\u2019re playing when you have the advantage, and not playing when you don\u2019t, on average, good things will happen. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You just don\u2019t know when those good things will happen. Every player who plays long enough will go through the type of dry spell Joe was experiencing. I have. Several times. And I\u2019m confident that with my skills and game selection, if it happens to me it will happen to you too. It\u2019s just part of the game. Not a fun part, to be sure. But a part that will surely show up from time to time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Joe\u2019s \u201cproblem,\u201d if you want to call it that, is not that he was running bad. Since he only played when and where Frank told him to, the team as a whole was playing with an edge. Since he was getting $10 per hour, plus a bonus that he hadn\u2019t collected yet but would when he finally hit a royal, Joe was personally playing with an edge. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Joe had one advantage over the rest of us. His salary guaranteed he couldn\u2019t go broke while gambling. (He could certainly go broke if he overspent his income, but gambling losses would never cause him to go broke.) The rest of us don\u2019t have that safety net. At the same time, I wouldn\u2019t want to play for $10 an hour. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Joe was giving up expected value for the sake of a guaranteed salary. That fits well with some people. Especially people without the skill and bankroll to successfully play the games profitably. But also people who are risk adverse &#8212; who just can\u2019t stand to lose.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don\u2019t like to lose. But it doesn\u2019t bother me very much. I\u2019m confident that things are going to turn out pretty well over all and today\u2019s score doesn\u2019t matter too much.<\/span><\/p>\n<a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-facebook nolightbox\" data-provider=\"facebook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Follow us on Facebook\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/lasvegasadvisor\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"Facebook\" title=\"Follow us on Facebook\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/facebook.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-twitter nolightbox\" data-provider=\"twitter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Follow us on Twitter\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LVA_Tweet\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"twitter\" title=\"Follow us on Twitter\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/twitter.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-youtube nolightbox\" data-provider=\"youtube\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Find us on YouTube\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/LasVegasAdvisorSHOW\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px;\"><img alt=\"youtube\" title=\"Find us on YouTube\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/youtube.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-follow synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-instagram nolightbox\" data-provider=\"instagram\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Check out our instagram feed\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lasvegasadvisor\" style=\"font-size: 0px; width:48px;height:48px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;\"><img alt=\"instagram\" title=\"Check out our instagram feed\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-follow\" width=\"48\" height=\"48\" style=\"display: inline; width:48px;height:48px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: none; box-shadow: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/gambling-with-an-edge\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/96x96\/instagram.png\" \/><\/a>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For the first six months of the Gambling with an Edge podcast, my co-host was Frank Kneeland. 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