{"id":1355,"date":"2015-09-08T16:28:37","date_gmt":"2015-09-08T16:28:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gwae.apps-1and1.com\/?p=1355"},"modified":"2015-09-08T16:28:37","modified_gmt":"2015-09-08T16:28:37","slug":"why-i-dont-play-progressives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/blog\/why-i-dont-play-progressives\/","title":{"rendered":"Why I Don&#8217;t Play Progressives"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A month or so ago on vpFREE a poster asked why I don&#8217;t play progressives. I thought about my answer for a while and decided to write about it here.<\/p>\n<p>Before I start, I should say I &#8220;usually&#8221; don&#8217;t play progressives. There have been exceptions, which I&#8217;ll mention.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Playing progressives is MUCH more difficult than playing 4,000-coin royals for several reasons. First, the correct plays at 4,000 coins are not the same as they are at 5,000 coins &#8212; or 6,000 or higher. Mastering a lot of strategies for a particular game, and learning at exactly which royal level the strategy changes, is very difficult. Since I can find enough 4,000-coin games where I think I have an edge, it&#8217;s much easier for me to become competent at these &#8220;stationary targets&#8221; than it is to have a similar level of competency at a moving target.<\/p>\n<p>Second, you have to FIND the progressives when they are high enough to be profitable. I live in Las Vegas. There are probably more than 1,000 video poker progressives in Clark County. (I don&#8217;t know the actual number, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s at least that high.) It is physically impossible to check every progressive every day. Teams that play these progressives hire one or more scouts to do this. When the scout finds a &#8220;play,&#8221; or a bank of machines that is getting close, he calls in the &#8220;troops&#8221;. For a lot of reasons, I do not wish to be part of a video poker team.<\/p>\n<p>Third, when you find a good play, you have to stay there until the royal is hit. It might be 20 minutes. It might be 20 hours. If you&#8217;re going to leave before it is hit, you&#8217;re giving up a lot of the value associated with finding such a play. It&#8217;s one thing to play for many hours when you&#8217;re young and have no other responsibilities. But I&#8217;m 68 now. Playing for 20 hours straight isn&#8217;t something I want to sign up for. And on the rare occasions I have played that much, it took me several days to recover. No thanks.<\/p>\n<p>Plus I now have responsibilities apart from sitting at a machine. I have a radio show; I teach classes; I have writing responsibilities; I&#8217;ve agreed to take Bonnie to a certain number of square dancing events each week and sometimes out of town for a weekend. I have talked her into letting me out of an occasional square dancing workshop when I learned about a special play, but I&#8217;m not going to skip the radio show or a video poker class to play a progressive. For a video poker team, such outside responsibilities might not be allowed. Which is another reason I&#8217;m not on a team. They probably wouldn&#8217;t want me!<\/p>\n<p>There are some progressives in Las Vegas that are positive more or less regularly. At the Orleans, for example, there are a couple of banks of Triple Play progressives where the best game is 9\/7 Double Bonus. This game returns 99.11%, and the casino offers 7x points periodically (0.70%), so the progressive doesn&#8217;t have to be very high to be at least even money. But being slightly positive on a game where you invest $3.75 a hand doesn&#8217;t add up to very much. I&#8217;m just not interested (although on occasion I&#8217;ve played that progressive while killing time waiting for a drawing to begin.)<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t play at Sam&#8217;s Town anymore, but they had a $5 8\/5 Bonus Poker progressive that was their best play for that denomination. Sometimes I played it. &#8220;Unfortunately,&#8221; I hit too many royals on $2 9\/6 Bonus Poker Deluxe machines at the Suncoast a couple of years back and that killed my mailers at Orleans, Gold Coast, and Sam&#8217;s Town as well. So I don&#8217;t play at those casinos any more. I&#8217;m still allowed to play but I don&#8217;t get mailers and the extra multipliers that mailer recipients receive that are not available to the rest of us. No thanks.<\/p>\n<p>Back in 2007, I found a $5 NSU machine in Indiana with a one-machine $70,000 progressive on it. The casino had dumped $50,000 worth of accumulated jackpot money onto one machine and I happened to be passing by and spotted it. I sat down and played it. I didn&#8217;t know the exact strategy, but on a game worth almost 105% where I could average $20,000 coin-in or so an hour, giving up a few tenths of a percent was of far less concern than was getting the machine back if I left. That was a case where I was willing to play more than 20 hours straight if I had to. I had to grab 6 hours of sleep after only playing 10 hours or so, but I was able to get the machine back and wasn&#8217;t willing to relinquish it until it hit. Fortunately it did hit while I was still awake and playing.<\/p>\n<p>Should I find that situation again, I&#8217;ll sit down again. But I&#8217;m not holding my breath.<\/p>\n<p>It is possible that in two years or so the only positive plays I&#8217;ll be able to find will involve progressives. It&#8217;s possible that if I didn&#8217;t live in Las Vegas and the opportunities were different, I would be more willing to play progressives. Who knows what the future holds? But for now, progressives aren&#8217;t my thing.<\/p>\n<p>If I were going to start playing progressives, I&#8217;d study Frank Kneeland&#8217;s The Secret World of Poker Progressives. It&#8217;s the only serious work on the subject I know about, and if that&#8217;s going to be my profession, I&#8217;ll want to be the best I can. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A month or so ago on vpFREE a poster asked why I don&#8217;t play progressives. I thought about my answer for a while and decided to write about it here. Before I start, I should say I &#8220;usually&#8221; don&#8217;t play progressives. 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