{"id":919853,"date":"2026-07-11T20:13:46","date_gmt":"2026-07-12T03:13:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/?p=919853"},"modified":"2026-07-11T20:13:54","modified_gmt":"2026-07-12T03:13:54","slug":"bobby-vegas-im-not-an-advantage-player","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/blog\/bobby-vegas-im-not-an-advantage-player\/","title":{"rendered":"Bobby Vegas\u2014I\u2019m Not an Advantage Player"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

I experienced an AP epiphany reading Michael Kaplan\u2019s fascinating book, Advantage Players<\/em>, and realized what I am and what I\u2019m not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Advantage players are literally in a world of their own making. The intensity, intelligence, and dedication to be in that rarefied club, then actually succeeding in breaking the bank, leave me shaking my head. Wow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

James Grosjean has my total admiration. His intense dedication to extensive research, analysis, and discovery and the incredible lengths he goes to implement these massively complex plays (I was going to say strategy, but that\u2019s like comparing an organ grinder to an orchestral movement) are amazing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My goal is not to leave with all the banana ($1,000) and chocolate ($25,000) chips or be invited to six-figure comped parties at Hakkasan, then hopefully getting outta town with all the loot and ID intact.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That club, while tipping my hat to it and learning what I can from their exploits, isn\u2019t me. I\u2019m not an \u201cadvantage playuh.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m a value player, where LR x MV x LP = +$<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My goal? Play with the Lowest Risk extracting Maximum Value as Long as Possible (staying well below the radar, then leaving satisfied and hopefully) Net Positive in cash dollars. And overall, I succeed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We each have our own levels of risk and reward. Yours may be $50 or $500 or $50,000 to my $1\/$5\/$25. Whatever the level ,I tip my hardly under the radar very colorful \u201ccat in the hat\u201d to you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But no matter what level you\u2019re playing at, you\u2019re in the game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

BTW, my experiences led me to work with one advantage player who was surreptitiously using electronics to record data in a Vegas casino and asked if I\u2019d assist him. I said absolutely not. I like my life and had zero interest ending up in a desert prison for using electronics in a Nevada casino to affect a game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The goal of my roulette project (using Non-Linear Dynamic Recurrence Theory) was creating a strategy without <\/em>electronics. My program (not a \u201csystem,\u201d mind you) was based on Thorpe\u2019s card-counting strategy card concept, but applied to roulette \u2014 to ID when roulette\u2019s extreme variance favors me. I continued to use it after we parted ways.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What I learned from that and other Vegas adventures, AP is way above my risk tolerance and \u201cplaygrade,\u201d like my black-chip-and-higher card-counting bud.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Again, I\u2019m not a playuh<\/em>. Except on the dance floor. Channeling Cyndi Lauper or Bruno or MJ, \u201cI just wanna have fun.\u201d That\u2019s my goal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yes, like APs, I love the research, hunt, and discovery, but my end game is to \u201cplay long time,\u201d minimizing risk, extracting value from the tables and the resorts, restaurants, clubs, all in the interest of having a good time. And for free or as close to it I can get.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ve loved \u201cplaying Vegas\u201d for 35 years. Hopefully, I will for 25 more. What\u2019s your level? Your goals? Whatever they are, know thyself<\/em>. Now \u2026 let\u2019s play.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I experienced an AP epiphany reading Michael Kaplan\u2019s fascinating book, Advantage Players, and realized what I am and what I\u2019m not. Advantage players are literally in a world of their own making. The intensity, intelligence, and dedication to be in that rarefied club, then actually succeeding in breaking the bank, leave me shaking my head. […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":86405,"featured_media":843497,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[558,643],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/bobby-vegas-friends-dont-let-friends-play-triple-zero-roulette.jpg?fit=980%2C588&ssl=1","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/919853"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/86405"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=919853"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/919853\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":919856,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/919853\/revisions\/919856"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/843497"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=919853"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=919853"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/shop\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=919853"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}