{"id":911,"date":"2008-05-06T10:18:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-06T18:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/blogs\/dmckee\/index.cfm\/2008\/5\/6\/More-updates-or-Trouble-with-Trolls"},"modified":"2021-07-10T03:53:43","modified_gmt":"2021-07-10T11:53:43","slug":"more-updates-or-trouble-with-trolls","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/more-updates-or-trouble-with-trolls\/","title":{"rendered":"More updates (or, Trouble with Trolls)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>First, a correction:<\/b> The <b>Tropicana Casinos &amp; Resorts<\/b> Web site is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tropicanacasinos.com\" class=\"broken_link\">here<\/a>, finally up and running after languishing in a half-finished state for an entire year. I don&#8217;t know why <b>Columbia Sussex<\/b> has left the <b>Tropicana Entertainment<\/b> domain name sitting out there vacant (probably something to do with saving money) but that&#8217;s why you (or rather, I) shouldn&#8217;t Google &#8220;Tropicana Entertainment.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The <b>troll<\/b> who says that the &#8220;Casinos&#8221; link <i>&#8220;has been off the Columbia Sussex Web site for months,&#8221;<\/i> however, is sadly misinformed. (I know, because I accessed it at least as recently as April 11.) Unless 24 days constitutes &#8220;months.&#8221; I was never good at New Math.<\/p>\n<p><b>Then some good news:<\/b> Tropicana Entertainment management is promising no (additional) layoffs at the Vegas property, in the wake of the bankruptcy filing, according to a KVBC-TV report this morning. That&#8217;s another pleasant change from what we&#8217;ve gotten used to since the property changed hands.<\/p>\n<p><b>On the other hand<\/b>, staffing has been cut so deeply in certain areas that it&#8217;s difficult to imagine where they could find room for further reductions. <i>One<\/i> maid to every hotel floor, maybe?<\/p>\n<p><b>Aforesaid troll<\/b>\u00a0wrote in today mostly to spew <i>ad hominen<\/i> insults, and ethical and personal slurs, but also to float a few contentions, <i>vis-a-vis<\/i> the Tropicana bankruptcy. He&#8217;s thoroughly unpleasant but may have something of value to contribute to the discussion, especially as he seems to be privy to information that hasn&#8217;t appeared in news coverage of Tropicana. To wit &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><b>A)<\/b>\u00a0<i>&#8220;Any conversation with analysts would tell you that [Tropicana Entertainment President Scott] Butera was brought in for this very reason [bankruptcy]. His hiring was,\u00a0it is widely believed, forced upon [Columbia Sussex CEO William] Yung by the debtors. This is what he does.\u00a0He is in it for the long haul, as he was with Trump on his financial problems.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>(In support of this argument, one could cite the displacement of Yung sidekick <b>Theodore Mitchel<\/b> with <b>Robert Kocienski<\/b>, Tropicana Entertainment&#8217;s new CFO. Whatever the reason, the shift brings a long-overdue infusion of demonstrable casino expertise to Trop HQ.)<\/p>\n<p><b>B)<\/b>\u00a0<i>&#8220;Tropicana Entertainment intentionally missed the [Credit Suisse] payment which defaulted the Tropicana here because\u00a0preparation for the bankruptcy filing was being prepared. CS, as well as all the creditors, have been in continuous contact with Butera.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>(I can&#8217;t wait to find out how <b>Wilmington Trust Corp.<\/b> feels about that, having been persuaded to give Butera the proverbial &#8216;just a little more time&#8217; to work things out. Forbearance ends May 15; Chapter 11 filed May 5. Score: Butera &#8211; 1, Wilmington Trust &#8211; 0.)<\/p>\n<p>(<b>UPDATE:<\/b> The forebearance agreement was amended late last week.)<\/p>\n<p>C) <i>&#8220;The true value in the Aztar [Corp.] deal was, and still is, the 34 acres on the Strip.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>A matter of opinion, Mr. Troll (who labels any view to the contrary as <i>&#8220;idiotic&#8221;<\/i>). Analyst estimates placed as much as $985 million to $1 billion-plus worth of the Aztar deal on the <b>Las Vegas Tropicana<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>However, as anybody who&#8217;d ever read any Aztar financials would know, the <b>Atlantic City Tropicana<\/b> was basically carrying Aztar, bringing in over half the company&#8217;s cash flow and revenue (see p. 22): 64% and 58%, respectively, in 3Q06. The LV Trop accounted for 13.5% of EBIDTA and 17% of revenue in that same time frame.<\/p>\n<p><b>D)<\/b>\u00a0<i>&#8220;The same would have happened if they lost control of Vegas &#8230; &#8220;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Flat wrong. The financial damage caused by subtracting the LV Trop&#8217;s cash flow wouldn&#8217;t be chicken feed, but it wouldn&#8217;t have been the dagger blow to the heart that was the loss of the A.C. Trop (see above). The Vegas site might have a lot of potential value that hasn&#8217;t been unlocked &#8212; or is being underutilized &#8212; but the Atlantic City property was putting by far the most cash on the table &#8230; a not inconsiderable value when there are interest payments to be met.<\/p>\n<p>Then again, Columbia Sussex might unlock a treasure chest of wealth when Tropicana Entertainment crawls out from beneath the rubble and erects <a href=\"http:\/\/www.howardmodels.com\/architectural-models-07\/Tropicana\/Tropicana-4.html\">a vast pleasure palace<\/a> on the Strip. And the cow might jump over the moon, too. But I&#8217;m not staying up nights.<\/p>\n<p>Still, perhaps Mr. Troll has a point or two, if his social skills are somewhat lacking. You be the judge.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>First, a correction: The Tropicana Casinos &amp; Resorts Web site is here, finally up and running after languishing in a half-finished state for an entire year. I don&#8217;t know why Columbia Sussex has left the Tropicana Entertainment domain name sitting &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/more-updates-or-trouble-with-trolls\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[23,15,9,38],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/911"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=911"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/911\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29821,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/911\/revisions\/29821"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=911"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=911"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lasvegasadvisor.com\/stiffs-and-georges\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=911"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}