Fezzik College Weeks 8-18, no more plays

[QUOTE=TheDude;47526]It used to be to me also. The last 2 years, it has less meaning IMO. I have discussed this at great links with some pro bettors, and the manipulation that is going on now is outright comical and entertaining. However the closing line is still stronger than the opener.[/QUOTE] THIS. One of the biggest mistakes most guys that consider themself sharp bettors clearly underestimate is off screen action. The numbers on the screen are becoming less and less relevant as each season passess.

Towelie - thats a fair comment however its not that easy to get offscreen outs - you have to be connected and to be in the know... also looking at some these numbers most of the pph shops are generic - and they book some heavy duty stuff - howver i know the big offscreen shop you are talking about who takes all the bread and their numbers are pretty relevant....no dry moving there ......

[QUOTE=towelie;47538]THIS. One of the biggest mistakes most guys that consider themself sharp bettors clearly underestimate is off screen action. The numbers on the screen are becoming less and less relevant as each season passess.[/QUOTE] I realize this information isn't easy to come by, but some help (that is, being pushed in the right direction) would be appreciated so I can learn about this for myself.

Love to see better pro gamblers post on this site especially on college football. Certainly, Fezz can pass on the rest of the cfb season but love to see solid cappers and gamblers post winning plays..isn't that what LVA sports is all about? A mission statement of posting winning gambling information especially in both college football and basketball which is coming up....Sure, posting winning seasonal wins by college teams is ok. However, doesnt help anybody during the weekly set of college football games and lines.. Im sure AC/ Fezz/ and LVA Sports can step up to the plate and get credible football gamblers to post here..just 2-5 more guys who win consistenly would be great...If Fezz passes, find others..thanks

thats TRUE.. one of the things i thought i would read about here are LVA was what the BUZZ is at " Tuesday " meetings and off screen outs.. we dont hear ANYTHING..... without ALF and ( i dont blame fezz for concentrating on NFL- kudos) but no sharp "source" for NCaa football info... cant we get teddy covers or football jesus on LVA ??- both guys i know fez has bantered with on twitter

Parlaynow- couldn't agree more with your above statement. I've been a member for years and have seen the posts continually dwindle, especially in hoops. One has to ask the value of the site if there just isn't anyone posting. Thank god for Truushot putting out the winners in boxing and mma!!!

Marcus, your post sums up very well how I (and probably others) feel. I'm not about to bail, but I need to reevaluate what's here, versus what we're paying. Being here from almost the beginning, I've seen some good posters leave, with not much to replace that void.

when prices go up - so do expectations. the reason i like this site is because i get to read what pro's are thinking (so i expect pro's to be typing thoughts - not just picks) otherwise i can listen to my buddy down the street who's telling me he had another winning week - why is he always meeting the local with an envelope - :]

131,000 members. Do the math!!

Can't be 131,000 paying members. There are days when almost NOTHING is posted here, so there's no way you've got 100,000 plus people looking in. No way! Besides, I don't care how many people are here, I do care how many GOOD people are here. That's what we're paying for.