Fitz/D BJ Coupon Unpleasantness RESOLVED!!!

So when the coupon's in play would you hit 12 regardless of the dealer up card (since you can't break) OR would you still stand when the dealer shows a good bust card and reserve hitting on 12 for whenever you would normally?
Optimal play of the coupon almost certainly requires an adjustment in basic strategy. Perhaps hitting a 12 against a 4.

But I wouldn't bother. A bust 22 comes along pretty frequently. I'd just play basic strategy and pull it out when that inevitable 22 comes along.
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Originally posted by: anthony
The D is revamping all of its wording and looking at something like what's below. Does this clarify sufficiently?

“Get Out of Hand Free” coupon is valid for Club D members only. Membership is free. Valid one per person per year. Present this voucher when you bust with a total of exactly 22 and your bet is a push up to a maximum of $25 retained. Voucher can be redeemed at traditional blackjack table games only. Not valid on Blackjack Switch or Spanish 21. Must buy in for minimum of $100. Voucher may be used for your original hand only, and does not apply on double downs or to any part of your hand, including the original, if pairs are split. the D has the right to modify or cancel this promotion/offer at any time. Valid at the D Las Vegas only. Official rules available at Club D. Must be 21 years or older. Not responsible for lost or forgotten coupons. No Cash Value. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-522-4700. © 2012 the D.


Wow. Thanks Anthony.

The first thing that comes to mind when I read this, though, is something my friend says all the time:
"Think of what the world would be like without lawyers."

So the staff and dealers can understand "Present this voucher when you bust with a total of exactly 22 and your bet is a push up to a maximum of $25 retained" but they were confused by the intent and application of "Get out of hand free (push your bet on 22)"?

These are the kind of people that need to be reminded that coffee can be hot and that you shouldn't stand on the top of a ladder because you could fall. "NO PUSH on 22" as a translation of "(push your bet on 22)" is like interpreting the WALK sign as DON'T WALK. Not a good reflection on our Vegas workforce.

Mo
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Originally posted by: anthony
The D is revamping all of its wording and looking at something like what's below. Does this clarify sufficiently?

“Get Out of Hand Free” coupon is valid for Club D members only. Membership is free. Valid one per person per year. Present this voucher when you bust with a total of exactly 22 and your bet is a push up to a maximum of $25 retained. Voucher can be redeemed at traditional blackjack table games only. Not valid on Blackjack Switch or Spanish 21. Must buy in for minimum of $100. Voucher may be used for your original hand only, and does not apply on double downs or to any part of your hand, including the original, if pairs are split. the D has the right to modify or cancel this promotion/offer at any time. Valid at the D Las Vegas only. Official rules available at Club D. Must be 21 years or older. Not responsible for lost or forgotten coupons. No Cash Value. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-522-4700. © 2012 the D.


I realize that it's impossible to idiot-proof something completely but the sample draft of the terms and conditions shown above still seems to leave the door open for potential confusion. I'm referencing the section where it might state: "Voucher may be used for your original hand only" It just seems like that before this all gets straightened out that there could be instances of it being interpreted that the voucher is only good for the initial (first) hand of the player's session.

I was disappointed and left before I ended up in jail but that was early February. IF my friends actually try to use their coupon or even my wife, I will be sure to mention AC and that this should be a no drama experience. As far as I am concerned the $25 I lost wrongfully is the least of my worries. Damage done. Maybe next time we will try it during day shift so I can call the office and AC can come present on our behalf.
Yes, give us a call when something like that happens.

Jack71687, you are right given what's showing here. However, at the top of what you are given at the booth, it now says in big bold letters, "This card may be kept until needed and used one time on the blackjack tables at the D Las Vegas ONLY."
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Originally posted by: anthony
Yes, give us a call when something like that happens.

Jack71687, you are right given what's showing here. However, at the top of what you are given at the booth, it now says in big bold letters, "This card may be kept until needed and used one time on the blackjack tables at the D Las Vegas ONLY."


That oughta do it.
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