Perfect VP play plus comps.

I understand that playing perfect video poker at the right pay schedule returns close to 100%. If all play were done at the same casino to maximize comps, don't these comps theoretically increase the return beyond 100%? Has anyone ever figured out the potential rate of return?

Sorry. Probably an old question, but considering concentrating on VP instead of bouncing from game to game.

Jean Scott discussed this subject in her "Frugal Video Poker" book, and I'm sure others have, as well. Keep in mind, though, that if you're playing only games with high EV's, your comps will be less than if you play shorter-pay machines. In many casinos, it will take a lot more play to earn points on these machines. And hosts will be less generous, as well, when they look at the games you've been playing.

Sue is Right on.

After being a strictly VP player for eons........I've added alittle Slot play to my trips,
to mix it up alittle & hopefully increase comps/FP.
That way Casino marketing doesn't see you just as an AP, or strictly VP player.

If your interested in VP, then check out some of the many books available on the subject. It is possible, although very hard, to breakeven or even win playing VP over the long run. It takes lots of work and discipline which most people either don't have or don't want to do.

J and J, you've hit upon the basic premise of how to support your Vegas habit with VP. Pick good games, play well, add on the value to you of the comps plus the cashback (both vary tremendously from place to place, and most, but not all, places, give more points/cashback for crappier pay tables), and accept the risk. Remember, though, that even the more tame machines, like 9/6 JoB, are still plenty volatile. For example, about 2% of your return is from royal flushes, so if you never get a royal (we all do if we play enough, but they're rare hands), your return is only about 97.5%.

CLV, you hit upon an interesting question/belief, and I don't know that any casino lets this info leak. If you play $3K coin-in on VP and $100 coin-in on slots (as opposed to $3K), do some casinos erroneously identify you as a "slots player" and comp you as such?

The hard bit is finding out which casino's this matters at and how much to play. That information is gold.

Jon,
Only casino marketings hairdresser knows for sure........