Binion's/Four Queens News

     If one was trying to make a living playing 10/7 DB, learning the strategy for 10/7 DB is sound. Since most people are not trying to make a living playing 10/7 DB and their playing time and bankroll is much more limited, using the simplier 9/6 JOB strategy is a good choice. As Bob Dancer states on his strategy card - "Whatever strategy you use, DB is signifiantly more volatile than JOB. If you have a limited playing stake, your goal is to make it last as long as possible, and if you know the strategy for JOB, you are probably better off sticking to 9/6 JOB. If, on the other hand, you are an action junkie who craves excitement, DB will take you on a much wilder ride." -  Since most people have limited time to gamble, having to stop (sometimes often) to use a strategy card can be very time consuming and often difficult to comprehend - very few people can actually play 10/7 correctly because the strategy is much more complicated than 9/6 JOB - and just one or two mistakes can lower the winning percntage to be much lower than if they used the 9/6 JOB strategy. Granted, one will give up a small amount of possible return using the 9/6 JOB strategy, but the 10/7 DB "wild ride" will be avoided.  As a suggestion, I advise those who play 10/7 DB to give both strategys a try - I have tried both and I prefer to use the 9/6 JOB strategy. 

You totally misinterpreted what Dancer said. He's never been in favor of playing at a disadvantage when one could play the same game at an advantage. Playing 10/7 DB with the inferior 9/6 JOB strategy doesn't remove any of the game's volatility, which is what Dancer meant by "wild ride." It just means that you go on that wild ride and lose at the end, as opposed to winning, if you follow the proper strategy.

If your goal is longevity/bankroll preservation, PLAYING 9/6 with 9/6 strategy might be the better choice compared to playing 10/7 DB, even with the proper strategy. But playing 10/7 using 9/6 strategy just puts you into the same highly volatile game while wiping out the small advantage you could have had.

It really ain't that difficult to learn the proper 10/7 strategy. Even a simplified version of the strategy, as offered by Dancer in his guide to the game or the Wizard of Odds, will return 100.1%. Like so many things, it gets easier with practice.

This might not matter all that much if you play for quarters, as your failure to learn and play the proper strategy would cost you oh, maybe $100 over the course of a trip (still more than enough for me to play properly). But if you play dollars? That's more like $400. That's worth the trouble of carrying around a one-page strategy chart. Think of it as saving the cost of several nights' accomodations.

       I posted what Dancer wrote directly from his strategy insert that was with the strategy card. There is no "misinterpretation" on my part -  as I stated before, I prefer to use the lower percentage 9/6 JOB strategy when playing 10/7 DB - the small percentage I am giving up is something I am willing to do because it gives me all of the "wild ride" I care to take. Playing 9/6 JOB, for me, Is boring. I personally do not like the 10/7 DB expert strategy - it differs greatly form the strategy I use when playing my favorite game, which is 10/6 DDB. I am not a pro and do not care to cloud my mind with all of the various exceptions that are required when playing 10/7 DB at the expert level. I have watched others using the correct 10/7 DB strategy (at the 4 Queens) grind away for hours as they "earn" their $5/ hour average "wages". I am not willing to grind for hours chasing the meager hourly "wage". Playing 10/7 DB the way I choose to play gives me the best of both worlds - a high payback percentage with a modified "wild ride". As in all things, to each their own. 

Sure, do things your way if you wish. But advising others to do the same, if following your advice will cost them money, isn't right.

Multiply $15 by however many hours you've played and will play, and you have enough to buy a car. The cost of playing badly is high, especially at dollar denoms.

But then, many people play other games, such as blackjack, badly as well, because they're ignorant of or don't want to learn the best strategy. Keeps the casino lights lit for the rest of us, I suppose.

     I did not purely "advise" anyone to do anything -  as a  suggestion, I advised them to give both strategys a try. They will then have the ability to decide how they want to play the game. Just because you play utilizing the expert 10/7 DB strategy does not mean that others have to play as you do.

Why do you insist on guaranteeing that players using perfect strategy will get a 100.17% return? Or any guaranteed return? The math is an average not gospel. Players using optimal strategy might never win. Players using the 9/6 JoB strategy might hit royal after royal. Saying that a player will "get" about $5.00 an hour is the real disservice. Buttttt.....since you're guaranteeing $5.00 an hour, will you give me my losses plus the $5.00 when I play 10/7 DB using optimal strategy?

Are your reading skills that poor? When did I ever "guarantee" any given return?

And to turn your dumbass question back on you--if you play $1 10/7 for an hour and hit a royal, are you willing to give me the "extra" $3,995?

Over time, a player's results will approach his mathematical expectation. In the short term, his results will likely be different. Unskilled gamblers can't wrap their heads around this. I remember telling a friend that placing a $20 bet at roulette was the same thing as tearing up a $1 bill. He was incredulous, and said how can that be, there's no way to lose only $1. I gave up after a while.

I never said that anyone, you included, does. However, I would NEVER even suggest to someone that they should consider adopting a losing strategy on a winning game.

Also, playing with the wrong strategy won't give anyone the "ability to decide" anything. They'll have no idea how much the strategy deviations cost them.

 If one tries both strategys, their results will give them the ability to decide which strategy they wish to use. 

My reading skills are better than your writing skills. The word "get" means to attain or achieve. That's you saying that a person will achieve a 100.17% return, or about $5.00 an hour. You saying they will "get" that return is definitely a guarantee. Before you try and weasel out, look at the Merriam-Webster 2nd definition for guarantee. 2 · to promise that some condition holds or will be fulfilled

I will give you all my win above $5.00 for each hour of playing 10/7 DB using optimal strategy. You willing to reimburse me for all losses plus the $5.00 per hour you say I'll get.