The D and Golden Gate update

Chadley r u really that D _ M B or just a funny guy? Don't believe, go ask yourself and tell me their version.
Shouldn't be that hard to verify.

250 for a vowel, but I am sure you can afford it since you are making so much moola doing stand up.
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Originally posted by: chadley
Chet - I am calling your bluff. What was the real reason they 86'd you?


U send me a PM, I'll send you the GM's name. You go c if my story checks out and then you come on here and tell everyone what you learned.



This is the first I've heard of this thread. Asking me to consider something "indirectly" usually isn't gonna get it done. Now here's my take on it.

This is the classic situation of balancing profit vs. welcome. Go for too much of the former and the latter is sure to suffer. It's something that every player who seriously seeks to beat the casinos, especially through high-profile promotions like this, has to make a decision about. Beat anyone over the head with their own hammer for too long and there has to be a reaction. Was the reaction proper in this instance? I'd say absolutely not. Unless there's more to it (and you can say there wasn't all you want, but I've been around enough of these to know that's not always the case), I see no reason at all that you should have been barred and had your earned comps rescinded. That said, once you were, you're tempting fate by showing up in the casino again under any circumstances.

Are you talking about Dave, the GM?. I know him and can find out more if you'd like me to pursue it. That's something we do for LVA members -- intervene when we think there's a reason to and this looks like there is. If you'd like to discuss more, feel free to continue here or contact me privately.

Anthony. Thanks for your response. I will ask directly in the future, and you are right I should have done it that way, but
I don't know you personally, so this is the path I decided to take. Lesson learned. It is Dave Tuttle who I spoke with and
told me "KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING, BUT AFTER THE KENTUCKY DERBY OUR RELATIONSHIP ISN'T GOING TO WORK
ANYMORE.

Your response is fair (not sure the I totally agree with profit vs welcome, but as I have won larger amounts and never had this happen
before) and I would like you to persue it, and you can either tell me privately via e-mail (I believe you have my e-mail address) or on this forum,
I am good with either.

Thanks for your response and thanks in advance for looking into this further.

I will talk to him. Might take a little time, but I won't let it drop. I'll respond back here when I know something and feel free to prompt me if too much time passes without a report.
I am not in any major rush. They keep sending me things, today I received an invitation to a Blackjack Tournament in July. Obviously takes some
time for me to be removed from their mailing list. I just want to be eligible to play in them, and park my car at the Gate like I used to because it is
convenient. Thanks. Not a good feeling to be kicked from somewhere. Want to remove the Scarlet A from my forehead.
Wow, anthony, that's really above and beyond, will be cool to read your take on this once it's all said and done.

BTW, I think time has shown that adding this Downtown forum las year was one of the best changes this board has seen in a long time.
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Originally posted by: chetthejet43
They had a promotion surrounding two sporting events this year the NASCAR race held in Las Vegas in March and the Kentucky Derby in May. The promo revolved around earning
tickets that you could then use to select the driver or horse that you thought would be the winner.

...

Because I had accumulated so many tickets I was able to spread them out into all the potential horses/drivers and I also know a little about each
sport so I had probably 10 tickets in Tony Stewart for the NASCAR race and since there were only 100 tickets in the each ticket was worth 500.
50,000 promo/100 winning tickets.

So I took 10% of the total pot for the NASCAR race and about 16% of the pot for the Derby.


I happened to be there over NASCAR weekend (not intentionally), and I can state with confidence that the prize pool for the NASCAR promotion at Fitzgeralds was $25,000, not $50,000. Additionally, I had one ticket (of the three I earned) correctly dropped into the Tony Stewart slot, and I was awarded $179 for my winning ticket. (I seem to think it was $189, but my notes say $179, so I'm going with that.)

Each ticket in there was worth that figure, not $500 per ticket as you claim. If you did indeed earn $5,000 in promotional chips from that promotion, you put in roughly 28 tickets in that slot alone, and took 20% of the total pot, not 10% as you claim. While I don't disagree that you did not break the letter of their rules, your actions did cost me (and everyone else who played the promotion in the spirit of which it was offered) money.

Again, I get that you didn't break any posted rule, but I think Anthony hit the nail on the head when he said that in a situation like this you have to balance potential profit versus being welcomed back at the casino. One single player taking 20% of a promotion intended to be distributed to many of their players (plus, by your numbers, 16% of the Derby promotion) would be enough for me as the owner of the property to at the very least politely invite you to no longer abuse their promotions.
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Originally posted by: knagl
[ One single player taking 20% of a promotion intended to be distributed to many of their players (plus, by your numbers, 16% of the Derby promotion) would be enough for me as the owner of the property to at the very least politely invite you to no longer abuse their promotions.


How is this any different than any promotion where a player tries to maximize their chance of winning? Bob Dancer is paid by the LVA for writing articles some of which boast about playing to earn huge amounts of entries, dominating most other contestants, and about the prizes he wins with that play. How is this any different?
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