Resort fee at The D for comped rooms

Originally posted by: Boris Radtke

Kevin

My guess is also that they have that game in a menu on a machine but with the sticky button it turns such a highly attractive game into a loser for the player.  I also noticed that many bartop games have buttons that are very hard to hit and if you don't pay close attention every time when playing your hand, mistakes can happen and it occurs frequently so the overall expectation of such games drops considerably. 

Of course I will go there again and check out if the game is still there and I will play it, but I know already that i must pay extreme caution when getting dealt deuces as missing one of them in the wrong moment could turn out into a desaster.  I know that some people know where to find that game. For certain reasons I cannot reveal that information publicly. 


It was at the Gold Coast, many moons ago (so many moons that they had 133, count 'em, 133 fullpay .25 Deuces machines) that a guy next to me experienced the ultimate sticky button horror: he held three to a royal and drew the other two--expect that one of the buttons "unheld." He stared at the screen for a moment, then realized what had happened. He went ballistic, which is putting it mildly. I tried to calm him down and said that he shouldn't touch the machine but should instead, call a slot attendant. He replied that it said right on the machine that machine malfunctions were the player's responsibility to catch, which is true. He nonetheless did call the attendant.

 

Long story short, after a good solid hour and the intervention of what seemed every casino exec in the building plus the Pope and the President, he got paid his $1000. I was greatly impressed, as they would have been within their rights to tell him "too bad, so sad." I gave them lots of business after and because of that, and I'll bet that other player did, too.

 

Do you think the same situation would turn out the same way today?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

It was at the Gold Coast, many moons ago (so many moons that they had 133, count 'em, 133 fullpay .25 Deuces machines) that a guy next to me experienced the ultimate sticky button horror: he held three to a royal and drew the other two--expect that one of the buttons "unheld." He stared at the screen for a moment, then realized what had happened. He went ballistic, which is putting it mildly. I tried to calm him down and said that he shouldn't touch the machine but should instead, call a slot attendant. He replied that it said right on the machine that machine malfunctions were the player's responsibility to catch, which is true. He nonetheless did call the attendant.

 

Long story short, after a good solid hour and the intervention of what seemed every casino exec in the building plus the Pope and the President, he got paid his $1000. I was greatly impressed, as they would have been within their rights to tell him "too bad, so sad." I gave them lots of business after and because of that, and I'll bet that other player did, too.

 

Do you think the same situation would turn out the same way today?


Kevin

 

I heard the same thing happening to another player, and he also got paid since surveillance apparently saw that the finger was on the button to hold the specific card. Not sure if that can be seen (depending on how many megapixels the camera has and if it was a PTZ cam was, whether or not it was in the right angle.

 

I find it very generous of a casino to honor the player and pay him, regardless. 

 

If you think about, how many times have we clicked a button and the card was still not been hold, giving us a wild royal or straight-flush, perhaps 4-of-a-kind. And nobody would call the manager and explain as they would probably just laugh at us. The total of situations that occur unnoticed are probably much bigger than the very rare occasion when a specific royal flush card was unheld and the perfect other cards would have completed the hand. 

Just got back from my stay at The D(original post about resort fees). Resort fees for Friday and Saturday night totaled $67.68. Not great considering it used to be 100% comped, but with our monthly food offers and the always excellent bartenders, we still came away just paying for our gambling(VP at The D and Circa bars) and had a nice stay. Room was clean as usual. Check-in and out very easy and efficient. Gambling wasn't as lucrative as last 2 trips but we brought our son to show him around and all had a great time. Ate at Victory Burger(Circa) and Bacon Nation(The D). Lots of food. Decent, nothing spectacular. Glad it was all comped. Played some VP and $5 craps at Downtown Grand with no luck either, but good time. My son noted that the dealers seemed a bit surly. I laughed and told him that's what you get with a $5 table that is packed constantly. I'm sure they have to deal with a lot of people who don't know the game or just don't care to use good etiquette.

Originally posted by: Michael

Just got back from my stay at The D(original post about resort fees). Resort fees for Friday and Saturday night totaled $67.68. Not great considering it used to be 100% comped, but with our monthly food offers and the always excellent bartenders, we still came away just paying for our gambling(VP at The D and Circa bars) and had a nice stay. Room was clean as usual. Check-in and out very easy and efficient. Gambling wasn't as lucrative as last 2 trips but we brought our son to show him around and all had a great time. Ate at Victory Burger(Circa) and Bacon Nation(The D). Lots of food. Decent, nothing spectacular. Glad it was all comped. Played some VP and $5 craps at Downtown Grand with no luck either, but good time. My son noted that the dealers seemed a bit surly. I laughed and told him that's what you get with a $5 table that is packed constantly. I'm sure they have to deal with a lot of people who don't know the game or just don't care to use good etiquette.


Downtown is pretty much the only reasonable choice these days. The prices, while not exacrly giveaways, are reasonable. The food is ok (mostly, just ok).

 

IMHO the dealers should be pleasant or at least cordial and polite, or they should find other jobs.


Originally posted by: Boris Radtke

Boilerman

 

I am with you, 100 per cent. I used to visit the El Cortez each time over the past 25 years or so. I gambled there, ate at the Coffee Shop and at the Steak House. Then they turned the Steak House into Siegels 1941 and created some other stuff on the other side. 

Then came covid and obviously more and more people in Vegas lost their jobs / homes / money, whatever. The number of homeless and handbeggers has increased dramatically and sometimes when I returned to my hotel after a long poker session I would see people sleeping on the streets. Then, when walking through the El Cortez to the Elevators, more strange subjects were sitting at several slots without gambling, just hanging around. Where else should they go if they need a restroom?

 

Overall I just don't feel comfortable anymore in Downtown. In the evenings you may not really notice the fact that it's crowded with drug addicts and very weired people , along with the big crowd of tourists. Plus the noise on Fremont Street and inside some casinos. I wonder what is it that a person accepts that and goes there to work or gamble. You really got to be a special kind of a fun seeker. I also have enough of that trash. Will spend my time elsewhere in the future. Not sure if the casinos can do anything about it. The concept is a complete failure in my eyes. 


To each, his own. I have also been visiting the El for about 25 years, including last month. I still get very good value there. Best blackjack game on the planet. I get room offers with $25/food each quarter. We had very good meals at Siegels. The restrooms at the El are now as nice (or nicer) than at the Golden Nugget. I had a great time at the $5 craps at Downtown Grand, where I also got a good hot dog and a beer for $2.00. I have not noticed a big increase in the amount of panhandling downtown, and the street performers are well-regulated now. Throw in the increased EV from the LVA MRB and staying (and playing) downtown is an easy call for me.

Originally posted by: John Hearn

To each, his own. I have also been visiting the El for about 25 years, including last month. I still get very good value there. Best blackjack game on the planet. I get room offers with $25/food each quarter. We had very good meals at Siegels. The restrooms at the El are now as nice (or nicer) than at the Golden Nugget. I had a great time at the $5 craps at Downtown Grand, where I also got a good hot dog and a beer for $2.00. I have not noticed a big increase in the amount of panhandling downtown, and the street performers are well-regulated now. Throw in the increased EV from the LVA MRB and staying (and playing) downtown is an easy call for me.


Some folks get overly creeped out by the sight of a few panhandlers, etc. I find those are the same types that don't like (insert name/class of marginalized group here). The truth is that downtown is a very safe place to be, because of the massive police presence (which is aided by casino security).

 

As you relate, downtown is where the good deals are. Throw in the MRB--which is very downtown-centric--and it's an easy call. Unless you like giving your money to the megacorporations that run the Strip.

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