Does anyone win at sports gambling?

Does anyone win at sports gambling? I tail all of Fezzik's picks. Have since the fall. And I'm losing. I've done the same with a few "wise guys" at other sites. They lose, too. Someone tell me a success story so I can have hope.

Notes I'm embarrassed to say everyone good does win, but tailing them makes it more difficult, as the lines disappear so quickly. My recommendation to win this year? Find out who is 'good' and when you get their suggested bets, shop like crazy for the best numbers you can get. When following guys who move the market (RAS, Alf, me,others) bet ready to bomb away at the release times, and don't take numbers worse than the market at release time. Recognize things like CBB and CFB totals are way easier to beat than NFL and NBA sides. When you see Season Wins suggested bets, bet MORE on these, this is a very beatable market. I actually think I had some really good stuff on the boards during CBB. Losing the Kst/Xavier under 151.5 in OT was tough to take. Then losing coinflip games like Baylor/Duke as the last game of the year is always painful. I personally had UNDER 140, beat the market by 2 points, loser. Argggh.

[QUOTE=Fezzik;20057]When you see Season Wins suggested bets, bet MORE on these, this is a very beatable market.[/QUOTE] Agree if one's betting on credit, but for post-up players, I'd guess a lot of gamblers, particularly ones with smaller bankrolls, would do better with more bankroll flexibility than tying up a ton of money on season win bets. The first year I bet season win bets I didn't have any credit accounts, and while I found some excellent opportunities and made a nice profit, I was kind of hamstrung because so much of my money was tied up. As such I had trouble keeping other accounts properly funded, and this was during the Neteller era when moving money around was easy. If a guy with a low 5 figure bankroll can't max bet the donkey lines at the SIAs of the world because his money is tied up in season wins, he misses out.

SIAs [QUOTE=skrtelfan;20061]Agree if one's betting on credit, but for post-up players, I'd guess a lot of gamblers, particularly ones with smaller bankrolls, would do better with more bankroll flexibility than tying up a ton of money on season win bets. The first year I bet season win bets I didn't have any credit accounts, and while I found some excellent opportunities and made a nice profit, I was kind of hamstrung because so much of my money was tied up. As such I had trouble keeping other accounts properly funded, and this was during the Neteller era when moving money around was easy. If a guy with a low 5 figure bankroll can't max bet the donkey lines at the SIAs of the world because his money is tied up in season wins, he misses out.[/QUOTE] Skrtelfan - What are SIA's? Thanks!

SportsInterAction, a low-limit book known for square lines. If there's an NFL game where every donkey is on the road favorite and the market line on the home dog is +4, SIA may have something like +4.5 -105. There are other online books like that but SIA was the first one that came to mind.

Like bodog today, then.

[QUOTE=joelshitshow;20070]Like bodog today, then.[/QUOTE] Not quite. SIA only deals one set of lines and eventually cuts you off after you've won $XXXXX, whereas Bodog switches anyone demonstrating they have a clue to a sharp/vanilla set of lines (which can happen in a matter of days).

[QUOTE=Goats;20071]Not quite. SIA only deals one set of lines and eventually cuts you off after you've won $XXXXX, whereas Bodog switches anyone demonstrating they have a clue to a sharp/vanilla set of lines (which can happen in a matter of days).[/QUOTE] Let me get this straight, if you are a sharp you get worse lines from online sites? Is this provable?

Right. For those who haven't used Bodog, no one with any clue gets the lines Bodog publicly advertises. You can get switched to the "sharp" feed in a manner of days and the amount bet doesn't even matter, they'll switch $20 bettors as quickly as they'll switch nickel bettors. I put "sharp" is in quotes because that's the colloquial term by which its known, but it would be more accurate to simply call it a "regular" feed. Bodog's also super-fast to put bettors on a delay. I didn't last long at all before I was on a 60 second delay, and at least half of my prop bets were getting rejected so I gave up on them. They flat out lie about the dual lines and the delays if you ask them and say "Lines are moving all the time" even though you can verify the dual lines plain as day but logging into your account with one browser and using a different browser without logging in, and you'll see two different sets of lines. That, plus some of the crap I read on the forums about them playing games with their live betting and selectively canceling certain bets as "past posted" makes me not recommend them.

[QUOTE=truushot;20073]Let me get this straight, if you are a sharp you get worse lines from online sites? Is this provable?[/QUOTE] Bodog gives you worse lines if you have a couple active brain cells, let alone are "sharp." There are plenty of other books that deal multiple line sets but Bodog are the best known. As an example, right now the Bodog "square" feed has Lakers/Hornets at 6 flat where the "sharp" feed has Lakers -6 -105 Hornets +6 -115. Bodog shows +6 flat on the line feeds and on the public site, but once I log in, it moves to Hornets +6 -115. They keep a cookie stored on your browser to remind the browser to display the "sharp" lines even when you're not logged in, but if you clear the cookie or simply open a different browser, you can see the "square" lines again.