Arnold Snyder's Blackjack Forum articles

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Not if what they professed to agree with is a point the original speaker never made. MP referred to the emotions a player might feel who understands advantage play and sees opportunities but can't take advantage of them. You referred to the feelings of disappointment you and other players have felt as those opportunities have disappeared. In the former case, which is what MP was referring to, the opportunities existed but many players couldn't take advantage of them. In the latter case, which is what you were referring to, those opportunities started to not exist at all.

 

It's frustration and disappointment ("bitterness") in either case, but over completely different phenomena. There's a big difference between not being able to take advantage of an opportunity and that opportunity not existing at all. A player who feels he has too short a bankroll to risk playing an advantage game can find a way to increase that bankroll. A player who can't find such a game at all is SOL.


      Infer what you may, I stand by what I posted. - "You say - "Does that mean that those who don't start with a large bankroll are forever shut out of most meaningful blackjack (and video poker) advantage play? Yep. That's why so many people are so bitter about it." -- I believe that the bankroll comment, while important, is just one of the reasons people are bitter. Throw in 6/5 blackjack payoffs, shallow penetration, lousy rules, backing off players who count cards, high minimums, etc., these are other reasons for bitterness. (As far as video poker goes, removal of playable games and the poor payback of the remaining games is also another reason for bitterness.) - Taken all together, there is justification for "bitterness".

Originally posted by: David Miller

      Infer what you may, I stand by what I posted. - "You say - "Does that mean that those who don't start with a large bankroll are forever shut out of most meaningful blackjack (and video poker) advantage play? Yep. That's why so many people are so bitter about it." -- I believe that the bankroll comment, while important, is just one of the reasons people are bitter. Throw in 6/5 blackjack payoffs, shallow penetration, lousy rules, backing off players who count cards, high minimums, etc., these are other reasons for bitterness. (As far as video poker goes, removal of playable games and the poor payback of the remaining games is also another reason for bitterness.) - Taken all together, there is justification for "bitterness".


Repeating something that's in error--"standing by" what you say, even though it's wrong--is neither noble nor brave, nor is it rational. But you're entitled to cling to any opinion you wish. I know that you "stand by" a numbef of things that are flat-out false. Once again, it's your right to do so.

 

You may have the last word, as you must, and another thread is down the toilet. Thank you.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Repeating something that's in error--"standing by" what you say, even though it's wrong--is neither noble nor brave, nor is it rational. But you're entitled to cling to any opinion you wish. I know that you "stand by" a numbef of things that are flat-out false. Once again, it's your right to do so.

 

You may have the last word, as you must, and another thread is down the toilet. Thank you.


      Anyone reading all of the posts here knows who has put  this thread "down the toilet".

Yeah, both of you have put the thread down the toilet, as always.  While I agree with one of you politically, both of you act like children, and certainly don't bring anyone around to your way of thinking.

 


Originally posted by: jstewa22

Yeah, both of you have put the thread down the toilet, as always.  While I agree with one of you politically, both of you act like children, and certainly don't bring anyone around to your way of thinking.

 


  I did not put anything here anywhere. Reread what I posted. I don't consider defending what I said as acting like a child. I also was not trying to bring anyone anywhere. 

Originally posted by: jstewa22

Yeah, both of you have put the thread down the toilet, as always.  While I agree with one of you politically, both of you act like children, and certainly don't bring anyone around to your way of thinking.

 


Well, I told David that the way he thought was OK, in the futile hope that that would be the end of it, and it was pretty dumb of me to expect that. So I consider this to be my.fault. as it would be if I let a toddler drive my car and he crashed it.

 

I don't think there was anything political here, though.

Certainly the current casino environment with all the countermeasures in place is more restrictive than that when the majority of these articles were written. Yet Snyder addresses the necessity of a huge bankroll to withstand negative variance / flux and just how difficult it is to become a lifetime or career winner as a blackjack AP. He and his peers in this series of articles don't attempt to sugarcoat it nor make it appear easy to accomplish..or that it's a fun way to make a living. In truth, way less than 1% of all BJ players ever attain this lofty position and maintain it. After a period of time most give up / quit because of bankroll issues or inability to withstand actual results that are outside expectations ( losses that should be winners according to the 'math').

 

Series of articles illustrating common pain :

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/blog/those-damn-fluctuations/

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/blog/you-won't-win/

 

True, many who didn't succeed ended up writing books or selling systems ( but there are exceptions to that commonality, too).

Edited on Feb 8, 2024 2:14pm

In 1983 on the first page of his Blackbelt in Blackjack, Arnold Snyder admitted that the best ways to make money on the game were to own a casino or write a book about it. 

 

So it was never easy.

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