coin in

VP Players,

Question about coin in. I used to be a table player only, BJ craps & Baccarat. As I've gotten older and studied I play a lot more VP. People always take about coin in (including hosts). How do you know what you put in?

Darkstar

Watch your points. Usually they'll equal your coin-in or some multiple of c-i.

Learn to estimate .
X amount of hands per minut times time played times your bet

Two examples.
5 hands per minute times 30 minutes times five coins=750 coins in the time played.
8 hands per minute times 120 minutes times five coins=4800 coins in.

Once you play enough, you'll get a handle on your average pace.

The most accurate way to determine coin-in is by tracking the slot club points. In many casinos. $1 coin-in equals one point. So you would record your total points at the beginning of the session and at the end. The difference is coin-in.

For example, if you start with 2,500 points and finish with 3,750 points, then the coin-in was $1,250.

You have to become familiar with the various casino software systems and learn how they show your points. And you have to research what casinos have $1 = 1 point, $2 = 1 point, etc. Also make the necassary adjustments for point multiplier days.

Sounds complicated, but once you get used to it...pretty easy. vpfree2 has a lot of good info on each casino's coin-in per point.

Knowing your coin-in per session, per day, per trip etc. gives you leverage when trying to get comps out of your host. Many casinos use coin-in to determine comp levels.

"Many casinos use coin-in to determine comp levels. "

Coin-in is just one of the things they consider when giving comps. More and more these days they're using "average daily theoretical loss" (theo). This means that $1,000 coin-in done on a video slot machine earns better comps than $1,000 coin-in done on a 99%+ video poker machine. Also, 1 day in which you play 4 hours on the machines earns better comps than 2 days of 2 hours each. It's a pretty complicated system.