DD Bonus progressive on the Sequentials

I found a very nice casino in Henderson where the staff is friendly, the games are good, and the food menu in the restaurant is ok. If you play then you earn enough points to eat for free. The bartenders are entertaining and fun and that makes me return to that place whenever I am in town.  Speaking about the Rainbow Club Casino in Downtown Henderson. It is linked to the Emerald Island casino with 1 slot club. They are offering super promotions all the time , os it's worth a drive for the quarter denom player. The Videopoker Games are not bad, either, and they have games that I couldn't find anywhere else before.

Just by chance I ran into the dd bonus progressive games. I was surprised that there is a casino that still has it. They said they recently put the software into a little newer IGT machines so the game handing has become easier from previous versios where the buttons had been an issue.

I noticed that they have 2 different types of progressives for the dd bonus poker fans: One is progressive on certain 4 of a kinds , plus the royal. And on the other side of that row, there are games with progressives for the royal flush, plus a big payout for the Sequential Royal Flush. I noticed that while I was playing it the meter for both royals actually did go up from time to time, even though I was the only player at that time. Therefore, the incerments are not bad at all. I didn't actually check how much the increment indeed was.

 

So, my hope is to one day to hit one of those sequentials, just for the nostalgic idea of the game. I even asked, they pay you, even if it's backwards (Ace-to ten) and not only from left to right.  And here's the best part of it , fo all the readers that say that this is not the news of the day: These games have a 4-6-9 paytable. Compared to 8-5 or whatever it is today at the Station Casinos version. Sure, Station's machines have a higher increment programmed to have it go up faster, but what good is it if you lose your farm on the way to hit that sequential?

 

Any comments on that game are highly appreciated. I take it when you have any of the 2 needed Royal cards on the deal in position, you would hold it. Including A on the left position and the 10 on the very last position?

 

 

From Switzerland

 

Boris

Originally posted by: Boris Radtke

I found a very nice casino in Henderson where the staff is friendly, the games are good, and the food menu in the restaurant is ok. If you play then you earn enough points to eat for free. The bartenders are entertaining and fun and that makes me return to that place whenever I am in town.  Speaking about the Rainbow Club Casino in Downtown Henderson. It is linked to the Emerald Island casino with 1 slot club. They are offering super promotions all the time , os it's worth a drive for the quarter denom player. The Videopoker Games are not bad, either, and they have games that I couldn't find anywhere else before.

Just by chance I ran into the dd bonus progressive games. I was surprised that there is a casino that still has it. They said they recently put the software into a little newer IGT machines so the game handing has become easier from previous versios where the buttons had been an issue.

I noticed that they have 2 different types of progressives for the dd bonus poker fans: One is progressive on certain 4 of a kinds , plus the royal. And on the other side of that row, there are games with progressives for the royal flush, plus a big payout for the Sequential Royal Flush. I noticed that while I was playing it the meter for both royals actually did go up from time to time, even though I was the only player at that time. Therefore, the incerments are not bad at all. I didn't actually check how much the increment indeed was.

 

So, my hope is to one day to hit one of those sequentials, just for the nostalgic idea of the game. I even asked, they pay you, even if it's backwards (Ace-to ten) and not only from left to right.  And here's the best part of it , fo all the readers that say that this is not the news of the day: These games have a 4-6-9 paytable. Compared to 8-5 or whatever it is today at the Station Casinos version. Sure, Station's machines have a higher increment programmed to have it go up faster, but what good is it if you lose your farm on the way to hit that sequential?

 

Any comments on that game are highly appreciated. I take it when you have any of the 2 needed Royal cards on the deal in position, you would hold it. Including A on the left position and the 10 on the very last position?

 

 

From Switzerland

 

Boris


9/6/4 DDB has a base return of 98.9%. It's true that most progressive VP games have paytables that are worse than the fullpay version, to "pay for" the progressive. But DDB has the worst "fullpay" paytable, so maybe they decided that 9/6 was inherently profitable enough. And BTW, both EI and Rainbow have what I call "super full pay DDB," paying 10/6/4 (100%), on a few machines.

 

The increment on a progressive bank is hard to measure, but anecdotally, 1/2 of one percent is as good as it gets, and most banks are worse. Rainbow/EI, given their approach to VP, I wouldn't be surprised if the increment was set to the maximum.

 

The either-way sequential royal jackpot is called "Reversible Royal" and was pioneered by Stations Casinos. To answer your question about altering strategy, you might be surprised to learn that doing so in order to give yourself a chance to hit the sequential is rarely applicable. In the example you gave, it would cost more in EV to hold the suited A10 (in the right position) than you would gain from the shot at the sequential. Famously, holding A10 suited in ANY VP game is a mistake, and a pretty big one in any game heavily tilted toward the AAAA payout. There are a few strategy alterations that should be made for the sequential, such as keeping K10 suited in position when you otherwise shouldn't. But because hitting a three-card draw to the sequential is (1/47) x (1/46) x (1/45) to succeed, the gain in EV is miniscule.

 

The number of ways a royal can be arranged is 5!, or 120. Two of those are reversible sequentials. So, it will take you about as long as it takes to hit 60 royals as it will to hit one reversible. It's slightly more likely than your being approached by a supermodel riding a unicorn and handed a bag of gold.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

9/6/4 DDB has a base return of 98.9%. It's true that most progressive VP games have paytables that are worse than the fullpay version, to "pay for" the progressive. But DDB has the worst "fullpay" paytable, so maybe they decided that 9/6 was inherently profitable enough. And BTW, both EI and Rainbow have what I call "super full pay DDB," paying 10/6/4 (100%), on a few machines.

 

The increment on a progressive bank is hard to measure, but anecdotally, 1/2 of one percent is as good as it gets, and most banks are worse. Rainbow/EI, given their approach to VP, I wouldn't be surprised if the increment was set to the maximum.

 

The either-way sequential royal jackpot is called "Reversible Royal" and was pioneered by Stations Casinos. To answer your question about altering strategy, you might be surprised to learn that doing so in order to give yourself a chance to hit the sequential is rarely applicable. In the example you gave, it would cost more in EV to hold the suited A10 (in the right position) than you would gain from the shot at the sequential. Famously, holding A10 suited in ANY VP game is a mistake, and a pretty big one in any game heavily tilted toward the AAAA payout. There are a few strategy alterations that should be made for the sequential, such as keeping K10 suited in position when you otherwise shouldn't. But because hitting a three-card draw to the sequential is (1/47) x (1/46) x (1/45) to succeed, the gain in EV is miniscule.

 

The number of ways a royal can be arranged is 5!, or 120. Two of those are reversible sequentials. So, it will take you about as long as it takes to hit 60 royals as it will to hit one reversible. It's slightly more likely than your being approached by a supermodel riding a unicorn and handed a bag of gold.


Kevin, I was aware of the number 120, so 1:60 would be a sequential (or reversed sequential). IT's super hard but when it happens, it's a key moment for every enthusiastic videopoker player for sure. 

 Due to the fact that this is extremely hard to accomplish as we all know (your unicorn bag of gold description may be true), I would still not forgive myself if I had A-10 in the correct position, just to see the 3 cards lining up to connect but still not pay me as I just discarded the 10. I think it doesn't happen too often and other little mistakes in the quarter denom game happen, too, therefore I will still play it and go for the ultra-long shot.

With all due respect, Rainbow and Emerald are, from my point-of-view, definetely the best places to gamble for "normal" people.

I did not see the 6-10 double double bonus games but I figure they may be somewhere hidden in the penny denom segments. I stay away from those games because I hate it that every single winner makes so much noise, beginning at the 3-of-a-kind already. I would be happy to find a quarter denom 6-10 game. If you know in which multigame machine those games are implemented, I'd love to hear from you.

 

Best regards

 

Boris

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