Deuces Wild 11-15 at Arizona Charlies

Hi there, I see that apparently they're offering that 99.96% Game at their Decatur location. Has anybody played that game recently? Is it worth it, I mean, is it just one single machine or a bank of machines that have this game in it? And are the points being downgraded or same points like on the other machines? Thanks for sharing your experience on that one...

That particular pay schedule is known as APDW, or Almost Positive Deuces Wild. In the past, they always had one bank of fullpay Deuces or APDW near the door to the north parking lot, in order to punish players with blasts of hot or cold air, depending on the season. They attached plaques to those machines saying that no points would be awarded.

There were four machines in that bank. They were moved about 18 months ago, and I'm sure they kept the long-standing points restriction. VPFree2 usually reports point earning reductions, but they don't here. But there's no way in hell that they're paying out their regular 0.167% in players' club points. I haven't played those machines since they were moved, but a friend who lives there says that no points are earned.

Another consideration, though, is that those machines are tied up around the clock. Any locals' casino that offers a breakeven VP game will have players camping out there. I gave up trying to play those machines after visiting three consecutive times and not being able to get on a machine. The only saving grace was that the coffee shop is pretty good (though not the bargain it used to be), so I had breakfast and came back to that machine bank to see if one had become available. Nope. Just the same chain-smoking people with glazed expressions going tappity tappity tap.

 I stayed there the 10th and had no problem getting on and playing those very machines on two different days ( the 10th and 11th). I had fun, made a little money and enjoyed the company of the other players. The machines are now located by the restrooms. Also the drink service was very good. 

That was one of the deadest times of the year, so that might be a good time to try to get on one of those machines. I wouldn't consider it on a weekend or any early evening. It was worse when those machines offered FPDW and were swarmed by APs (even though the play was worth only $7/hr.).

The other thing that keeps me away is that Arizona Charlies Decatur is a very, very, very, very, very smoky casino. At least, when those machines were in their former location, the periodic hit/cold air blasts mitigated the stink and provided you with much-needed oxygen. The current location is at the end of a dead-end corridor and the ventilation is pretty poor.

    All true. 

ok, people, I guess your information is sufficient to get an idea about the situation. Very very very...VERY smoky, and if you happen to find an idle machine, usually the players next to me would be super chain smokers and then comes the fact that there's no points being awarded, so I better call it the end for me before it even started. Not so sure if Sam's Town still offers triple deuces wild. Apart from the fact that that game is heaven-or-hell, I think it offered at least a few points when I was playing it. Imaghine if you hit 2 or 3 sets in a session. This would be a nice little thing....

There are exactly two machines with that game remaining, and they're .05 denoms only. I do think they're 10-coin, though.

Boyd doesn't give you ANY points if you're on the bottom tier. Then they give you 0.05% (one twentieth of one percent) once you escape from that...which takes a rather hefty amount of coin-in--$75,000, if memory serves. Then if you don't play for six months, they'll kick you back down to Dirt level.

Allow me to repeat the advice I've offered to so many others. Get thee to Emerald Island. Great games, great promos, great and inexpensive food. You'll get showered with freebies just for signing up. And the LVA wheel spin coupons are worth a total of $36. Play NSUD and 10/6 DB for stakes as low as five cents.

And if you are willing to go to Sam's Town, it's not too far down the road to Emerald Island.  

This topic came up a few months ago.  Kevin gave his incorrect take on it and I corrected him.  Now a few months later, let me do it again (Kevin, this time, can you retain what I post and not post your invalid take again?)

Kevin has this idea that the machines had a plaque saying no points would be awarded.   I told him in the prior thread this wasn't the case.  I have played on this bank of machines at least 8 times in the past 3 years, and in that time 1) they never had a plaque, 2) EACH of those 8 times I played this bank of machines, I was the only one playing the bank, contrary to Kevin's claim that the bank is "tied up around the clock".  The times I played were usually late afternoon, nothing like 3am.   3) When you post this claim " But there's no way in hell that they're paying out their regular 0.167% in players' club points."" you again totally wrong  They paid points.   In other words, you couldn't be more on this entire topic, Kevin, and MUCH of this was already discussed here on this very board, just a couple of months ago!

And yes, this is the APDW bank.  Not maybe, not probably, certainly, with the APDW payscale.

Now Kevin, you are famous for ripping people here for not reading or learning.  The latest is when you ripped Binion's Steakhouse staff for not reading the terms of the coupon.  So I ask Kevin, why don't you hold yourself to the same standards as you hold others?   

Your take was wrong, you were corrected, and yet your latest post is even more factually false than your prior one.   

You shouldn't let your political opposition to my views color your responses.

I doubt very much that you were completely alone eight consecutive times on that bank. Those machines are popular. What you're claiming sounds like hyperbole. But I'm not going to call you a liar.

I know I saw those plaques when the machines were in their prior location near the north entrance. I also know that I earned no points on those machines for my play, as the plaques said. Certainly, I could have been hallucinating. 

It's possible that they're paying SOME points now. Have you calculated it? Are they awarding their standard 0.167% on those machines? I said that my info wasn't recent and that I hadn't played there in 18 months. I also said that a friend who is a local said that those machines still have point restrictions. 

But I guess that your "take" is more "valid" than mine. If your experience is more recent than mine, you could be right and I could be wrong about the current conditions there. I don't understand what you mean by my "retaining" or not your posts. Whatever you post here stays here. I can't blot it out, nor do I want to.

I'm a bit puzzled by your white-hot anger here. Is it because I've been criticizing Trump? Or are your joints aching in the cold or something? Because you seem rather vehement about this.

David Miller does report an experience similar to yours BTW. But I stand by what I said. Your info is more recent than mine. No way were you the only player at that bank eight consecutive times. Maybe they were eating cats in the coffee shop?

I hope that whatever's irritating you goes away soon.