Do slot machine paybacks really matter to players?


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Very nice, Westie! Thank you very much for posting that! And players who have the American Casino Guide can see what ranges of Slot Machine returns are available for a bunch of different machines (such as Wizard Of Oz).

RecVPPlayer
This is really a pretty interesting, thought-provoking article. I think the basic point is that people (players [good players, not the clueless masses] and casinos) focus on EV and ignore volatility, but that it's the volatility that really affects longevity in the case of slots.

This really makes perfect sense. From a mathematical standpoint (sorry, folks), EV is the mean and volatility is the variance (which is the square of the standard deviation, if you're really into such things). The mean is approached only in the long run (for example, you'll keep 99.54% of your money playing 9/6 JoB for a very long time), but in the short run, volatility is King. Now, the "long run" is also determined by the variance; the higher the variance, the further away the "long run" is. The variance of many casino games is low: it's 1.3 for blackjack, 1.0 for roulette, 2.7 for three card poker, etc. It's 19.5 for 9/6 JoB, up to 42.0 for DDB. But for slots, it's much higher, in the 50-120 range, probably even higher for the most volatile machines like Megabucks. Think about it, how long does that $20 last on Megabucks? And how long would you need to play to get that jackpot at least once, to get you to the long-term EV?

Now, the article talks about a simulation where a 97% EV slot and an 88% EV slot yielded about the same longevity, probably because the variance was about matched. I think the take-home lesson is that in high-variance games (like slots, probably also keno and volatile VP games like DDB), you won't feel the benefits of a better EC for a VERY long time, like over the span of a lifetime. On the other hand, you'll have a more predictable ride with a lower volatility game (like a lot of the better VP, and blackjack).

Thanks to Rec, by the way, for pointing a lot of this out over the years.
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Originally posted by: jstewa22 Thanks to Rec, by the way, for pointing a lot of this out over the years.

You're very welcome! I'm happy to help because players really need to understand this stuff to better know what's what.

Players should really take all of this into consideration if they want to have a better chance at either winning, cutting down losses and/or at the very least being able to play for a longer time (before their money possibly runs out or down).

Actually the Volatility of the game (which is basically a function of the Variance) is VERY IMPORTANT because it will give people a much better indication of how long of a session they are more likely to have before the money that they have set aside for the session possibly runs down.

RecVPPlayer

Wow, Jon, EXCELLENT write up!
Thanks, Marc. Guess I'm a math geek at heart.
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