Dumb Guys at the Craps Table

Craps is for weird people. We who play it know this. Crazy superstitions abound.

Still, I am so sick of seeing two types of guys at the tables.

The Guy Who Bets the Pass and the Don't Pass At the Same Time.
I can't stand this guy. WTF are you doing, other than giving the house one unit every 36 rolls? You know those bets can't win, don't you? Yes, they give you simultaneous access to do and don't odds, but so what, you could get that by placing odds instead and maybe actually win something. So what are you doing, other than making people snicker at your foolishness? Seriously, stop it!

The Guy Who Scribbles Notes About Each Roll On a Dirty, Rubber-Banded Notepad.
I CAN'T STAND THIS GUY! WTF are you doing? Who cares what recent roll history was? How the heck does that help you in any aspect of life? What, you think because a six hasn't rolled in the past 8 rolls it's sure to come up next? Well, if that's true, why aren't you rich? Instead, you're poor, smell bad, and you stole that pencil from a mini golf course 16 years ago. KNOCK IT OFF!

Please don't be one of these guys.

(BTW, it's ALWAYS guys. Women NEVER EVER do these stupid things. Other things, sure, but not these things.)

Okay, rant over.

Chilcoot- while you are in a ranting mood, tell us how you feel about the blackjack players who take cards when doing so goes against basic strategy... I always enjoy a good rant, no matter how sensible it may be.

Those craps guys who write it all down make me nuts, too. But I must say I have never seen anybody bet both sides. And when BJ players do dumb things, I just sit there and smile. Sometimes it leads to wins for me, and sometimes it doesn't.

I know a guy who bets pass and dont pass, he does it for the comps, he swears by it. I would think the pit boss would not give him the credit, but he is a middle Diamond and that is all he does????? he may bet a few numbers, and then dont pass to hedge his bet. Its crazy but true.

I believe your friend may say he earns comps playing both the pass and the don't. People say lots of things.

But I don't believe there's a casino orbiting our sun that does that.

If he's getting credit, he's getting it for doing something else.

The one thing I like about craps as opposed to BJ is that no one else's play affects mine. As long as they aren't dropping f bombs every two seconds or spilling drinks etc. , they can do what they want. I pay attention to my play not theirs. They have a right to bet their own money the way the want.

Good Luck!
Ric at Joes

Maybe he gets extra credit for betting against himself...LOL.

I don't go to Las Vegas to bitch about minor crap like that!
Let me guess....your either a pass line, single odds kind of craps player and at times when you want to walk on the wild side you'll play the 6 & 8----- or you play the pass line with single odds and do the ever popular come bets and lose your money slowly just like the casinos convinced you to do(both ways) all the while telling everyone at the table "I" know what I'm doing follow me!
I'd rather be kicked in the balls at a craps table than play the pass line single odds, and make come bets all night long!..................Boring!

I believe in dice setting (that should get another chilcoot rant started!), I also don't believe in writing down my rolls on paper, I have an excel program for that on my smart phone!(rant #2 coming up!). I also believe in playing the Pass line or don't pass line as I "feel" the dice are getting hot or cold (rant #3) for the most part, I play the iron cross when the table is warm or hot, $10 pass line and pray for a 5,6, or 8 to come out. if a 5,6, or 8 does come out, I put $10 or $12 on the other two number and then put $5 on the field.....this way, I make money on every single throw except the dreaded #7(rant #4)
I have experimented with playing both the pass and don't pass at the same time to grind out a small win and get some comps but only managed a very small win (and some losses losses) and very little comps (Boulder Station-years ago) but got bored stiff grinding. As long as someone wasn't slowing the table down ridiculously bad and they were doing either thing next to me It wouldn't bother me in the least.
Why let shit like this bother you? The only thing that ever remember pissing me off at a craps table was this mouthy little Italian, cigar smoking guy, years ago at Samstown, who bitched about every roll (as he lost), he would yell at some guy because it was his fault because he said the word "7"just before the 7 actually came out, crap like that. I actually liked the negative mojo as I was making money on the don't pass line but somewhere along the line the dumb shit started picking up my field bets while I was doing the iron cross thing. Once was a mistake and I let him keep the $5, the second time he got a lecture from me and I let him keep the $5, the third time he was escorted out after a world class rant from me! (applause from the other players at the table as he left) and I got the $5! Now that's something to be pissed about.

weggie

Yeah, well, that's just dumb. I'm going to hope you're kidding. I'm also going to laugh very hard now.



I know you consider yourself funny, so I hope you appreciate these hearty laughs in the spirit intended.

Don't laugh, I'm serious about the excel program.
I have a program on my lap top and practice dice setting at home with two different color dice. Both dice are started with the same numbers up and facing you. After the practice roll, you type in what the roll was (according to color) and after any amount of rolls the program can tell you multiple things, which dice is doing what you want and which isn't. Everyone 'thinks" they have a magic number that keeps coming up and this program can prove or disprove that. Large amounts of rolls pretty much prove out the laws of math and dice.7 comes out every 6 rolls on average whether you like it or not!
Your throws at the table are hard to track as I don't want to slow down a table and its hard to track which dice did what because they have the same color, and I might have had a rum and coke or four, and if you miss one throw it screws up the math involved.
I disagree about the casinos not believing in dice setting, go on one good run dice setting at the Bellagio and see what is said the next time you get the dice. I cant throw a baseball 95 miles an hour but I know it can be done, so why not believe someone can influence one out of every x amount of rolls to lower the casinos vig?
You still haven't told me what kind of craps player you are? What system do you use to beat the casino? craps is a negative expectation game and unless you do something to influence things in your direction your throwing good money away. Betting the Pass line, single odds will still lose your money (slowly) just as effectively as my dice setting

weggie

weggie