Response to Boyd's Players Club Changes

Candy, that's generally true, but everything I've read about the Boyd changes, from many different sources, says that all the play toward a tier point is lost if you change machines, or even pull your card.  That makes Boyd a hell of an outlier.  And the Boyd machines have never displayed a countdown; I haven't been out to Vegas since the changes, but I doubt that they've retooled all the machines (and if there were a displayed countdown, there never would have been so many questions about coin-in per tier credit; it took a while for the VP experts out there to figure it all out).

Gottcha.  That  would be one hell of an outlier. 

Who actually has given out this information?  Doesn't make sense, since at some point every human everywhere leaves a machine to go eat, go to bed, go home.  Nobody would ever make any tier points at all. 

I've seen this on numerous message boards, from some very, very reliable people, at least four or five of them.  It's fairly egregious, kind of like the breakage that the race tracks take, but more so.  No big deal on slots, obviously, but when you're dealing with a $120 or so per tier credit situation like 9/6 JoB, it's a nightmare.

B-Connected question:  How many dollars to earn 1 tier credit.  Might have to change casinos.  Making it very hard to earn 750 tier credits if you only visit vegas twice a year.  I don't want to chase comps that bad.

Rodney, with the new system it depends on the game that you're playing.  See the discussion above.

The other poster was correct;  it does matter what game you are playing.  It seems that most Keno games and slot games, give you 1 tier credit for every $5.00.  It is best if you are going to play one certain machine for a long time, play $5.00 through and go check at the kiosk to see if you got one tier point.  But, if you change games or remove the card for any reason without reaching the next tier, it starts over.  On video poker, there is no set amount.  This is expecially frustrating, and we have been told that it depends on how long and how much you play.  Then again, if you change games, say from 'jacks are better' to 'deuces wild' , the accumulation of whatever their secret formula is, starts over.

The problem here is no one knows how the system works. The casino host knows nothing. If you play slots you get plenty of points andvtier credits. Play video poker and you are screwed. They give you pints so you can keep your sapphire status one year. After that it appears everyone is screwed. I play quarter and 50 cent. Last visit I spent 7?fays at Boyd property. I play 6-8 hours per day. No slots. For the 7 days I earned a grand total of 200 tier credits. On checking Meter I estimated I got one tier credit for one hour play. Cannot say whether you lose everything on game change. I don’t thing so. If you change machine you drfinetly start a new tier credit cycle. Based on what I have observed if you don’t play1-5 dollar machines you will not maintain sapphire status. That is assuming they don’t give ??? You points. The tier credit of course is diff from points. Those you can use for food etc. they accumulate seperate from tier credits. My attitude I will play at Boyd as long as comps keep coming in mail. When they stop I stop. I will monitor meter next visit and see if tier credit cycle starts over when you change games on same machine. 

a few years back, there used to be an online poker site called "Empirepoker". Looked to me somewhat related to Partypoker or some other site, so it must have been an affiliate site.  It was all back in the years when bonus hunting and freeroll tournaments was a very interesting business modell to many players and a way to supplement income.

However, they had a loyality program which reminds me somewhat of Boyd's program. It worked in a way that you could earn daily loyality points by playing (played hands, e.g. dollars wagered). So, for every dollar you played, you used to get 1 point...at the beginning...but then it changed and they started giving you points based on the square root of your hands played . So....100 hands played....10 points.... 400 hands played...20 points, ....2500 hands played....50 points. and no unlimited number of points earned daily in order to achieve the top tier level. In fact, it was irrelevant, because at some level it makes no more sense to earn additional points because it takes too much play... 10,000 daily points = 100 loyality points (square root)...but in order to earn 200 loyality  points, it would have required 40,000 daily points, which of course is a hell of a play and is basically impossible to accomplish.

So people figured out this system and just played long enough until it was not worth the time anymore playing longer sessions and then they would switch back to partypoker (which had the same players on it connected). When you had your 100,000 points together, they would send you a nice "Empire Poker" watch and you were eligible for other benefits, such as bonusses, free play, tournaments, etc. It was good but the concept failed because heavy play was only honored to a certain degree. 

Boyd's concept reminds me a little bit of it, as they want the players to play slots and perhaps table games but the heavy videopoker players, although they bring in a lot of money, are being pushed away because management believes they are not interesting enough to the earnings percentage. Well, probably this way of seing things will get some adjustments in the next couple of years.....