Should I have said anything?

I don't autoomatically take the side of any business if or when I spot a rip-off. I don't know what's gone before. I don't know who has what relationship with whom. I don't, basically, have a scorecard. So I don't know the whole story. Why step in and tattle based on some cultural "thou shalt not steal" trope? 

 

I'm not God, or a cop, or somebody's mother. Do as thou wilt, as the Satanists say, and let God or the FBI sort it out.

Not your money.  Not your business.   What's the upside to helping out the casino?  Think they're going to pay you some kinda finders fee?  Bahahaha, GTFO.    The downside is you've potentially made two enemies....and....for what?   

Originally posted by: mannydogpro

Not your money.  Not your business.   What's the upside to helping out the casino?  Think they're going to pay you some kinda finders fee?  Bahahaha, GTFO.    The downside is you've potentially made two enemies....and....for what?   


I feel I have a moral obligation if I see someone stealing. Even if the victim is the big bad ol' casino. After all, if I see something like that and say nothing, how can I legitimately complain when they rip me off?

 

I don't want a free-for-all, Wild West environment. And yes, there is no immediate "upside," just like there isn't in performing most moral acts. If there was an upside, it wouldn't be a moral act, would it? It would be something done for gain.

 

Oh, and to Robert...I hope to God* that "Thou shalt not steal" is more than just a trope or a religious edict. Would you intervene if you saw someone take someone else's purse or wallet? Of course you would. Is it really any different if the victim is a casino?

 

*Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster

One patron stealing from another?  Yeah, I'd pipe up if I could do it without a confrontation.   

 

A casino?  Let....  Them....  Burn... 

Edited on Jan 29, 2024 1:24am

Seek out somebody with authority (and as unobtrusively as possible) if you think you must report something.  That person will decide the next step to take, if any. 

 

Many years ago in a grocery check out line a person in front of me pocketed a pack of cigs (back when cigs were right there for the taking).  I said nothing but quietly told the cashier.  The cashier barely nodded, said nothing, probably did nothing.  I was young and thought it was a big deal then, but now I realize some things aren't worth it to a business to make a fuss over. 

 

Casino situations are, of course, likey to view such things differently.  Still, they have surveillance, for which we pay through the nose by gambling, or in the case of stores by buying their merchandise.

 

'Nuf said.  Thanks.

 

Candy

I ultimately said nothing because I wasn't CERTAIN, and I told myself that surveillance would catch it. But the overpayment was so skillfully done, I ww wondered if they actually would. I only noticed it because something seemed a little off from my vantage point 

 

I'm sure that if I had said something to the pit boss, they would have monitored that dealer and player and determined what, if anything, should be done. But another rationalization I told myself was that since anybody betting over $5 at the El C was a high roller, maybe he was already being scrutinized. Again, a rationalization 

Surveillance is pretty solid at the ElCo. I've seen pit bosses tell dealers they made a wrong payout half an hour after the fact. Even small-time counters that can fool the pit for a long time aren't immune from the cameras in the sky. Don't ask me how I know this...😎

Edited on Jan 29, 2024 11:21am
Originally posted by: black jack

Surveillance is pretty solid at the ElCo. I've seen pit bosses tell dealers they made a wrong payout half an hour after the fact. Even small-time counters that can fool the pit for a long time aren't immune from the cameras in the sky. Don't ask me how I know this...😎


Yeah, in fact the El Corpse has a reputation for sweating the action--a friend of mine was backed off for increasing his bets from $5 to $10 (!!). So maybe that player and dealer were eventually taken out back and boiled alive, I don't know.

 

It's certainly a lucrative collusion scam, though not worth the risk IMHO. A consistent overpayment on a blackjack of $25 each time would yield a profit of $75 an hour, which would of course would be split between the two colluders. If youse gonna steal, steal big, I say.

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