Video poker "influencers"

Not sure this belongs in the Gambling forum, since the people I'm talking about almost certainly aren't gambling--they're getting paid to entice other people to gamble.

 

One guy whose screen name is "Leon" pretends to be a VP medium-high roller. He likes to play multiline 9/6 Triple Double Bonus--a 98.45% game--for anywhere from $25 to $75 a hand, and occasionally higher. His most frequent hits are AAAAkicker for $4K. He has been posting on the twoplustwo forums for over two years now. I don't know if he plays the proper strategy, since he only posts screen shots of his handpays.

 

He lathers it all up with food porn and pics of his comped suites. He also makes sure to show us the free play he gets. What's laughable is that after 2+ years of playing 98.45% games, he claims to be ahead. He must have ten million hands under his belt by now. It's theoretically possible that he could be ahead--about 17 billion to one against, by my rough calculation.

 

A somewhat more egregious example is a young guy calling himself "slotmassacre" on YouTube. He roams Vegas and Southern California, "playing" VP for as much as $500 a hand. He videos most of his sessions. He not only plays shit paytables--as low as 96%!--but also plays the games very poorly, making frequent basic mistakes. Yet, he also claims to have won his last fifteen trips in a row.

 

His videos are poorly edited, with a rather sick obsession of filming his own face (dude, no one wants to see your mug), waving his hands a la Trump, sticking his fingers onto the screen to point out where he missed a royal, got a quad, etc., and most annoying of all, going "OOOOOO!" every time he draws to a pair and gets three of a kind but not a quad. At the denominations he plays, he should have lost millions by now.

 

So the only possibility is that the casinos are paying these guys to pretend to play video poker, just like those slot "influencers" aren't really playing with actual money. The credits these guys are playing with must be loaded beforehand, by agreement, and they can't cash them out.

 

It's all a sham. Yay internet!

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Not sure this belongs in the Gambling forum, since the people I'm talking about almost certainly aren't gambling--they're getting paid to entice other people to gamble.

 

One guy whose screen name is "Leon" pretends to be a VP medium-high roller. He likes to play multiline 9/6 Triple Double Bonus--a 98.45% game--for anywhere from $25 to $75 a hand, and occasionally higher. His most frequent hits are AAAAkicker for $4K. He has been posting on the twoplustwo forums for over two years now. I don't know if he plays the proper strategy, since he only posts screen shots of his handpays.

 

He lathers it all up with food porn and pics of his comped suites. He also makes sure to show us the free play he gets. What's laughable is that after 2+ years of playing 98.45% games, he claims to be ahead. He must have ten million hands under his belt by now. It's theoretically possible that he could be ahead--about 17 billion to one against, by my rough calculation.

 

A somewhat more egregious example is a young guy calling himself "slotmassacre" on YouTube. He roams Vegas and Southern California, "playing" VP for as much as $500 a hand. He videos most of his sessions. He not only plays shit paytables--as low as 96%!--but also plays the games very poorly, making frequent basic mistakes. Yet, he also claims to have won his last fifteen trips in a row.

 

His videos are poorly edited, with a rather sick obsession of filming his own face (dude, no one wants to see your mug), waving his hands a la Trump, sticking his fingers onto the screen to point out where he missed a royal, got a quad, etc., and most annoying of all, going "OOOOOO!" every time he draws to a pair and gets three of a kind but not a quad. At the denominations he plays, he should have lost millions by now.

 

So the only possibility is that the casinos are paying these guys to pretend to play video poker, just like those slot "influencers" aren't really playing with actual money. The credits these guys are playing with must be loaded beforehand, by agreement, and they can't cash them out.

 

It's all a sham. Yay internet!


    For those who may be interested, here are a few of the Video Poker people who post on the internet. -- (1) - John's World of video poker, (2) Slotmassacre, (3) BestBet video poker, (4) Steven's No Limit Video Poker, -- These guys have a lot of posted videos and contrary to what some say, they do play very well and the videos are entertaining. The bonus is that they are playing with their money and the only thing it will cost you, if you watch, is your time. There are others who also post but these are the ones I enjoy viewing.

I watch Jackpot Gents on Youtube, Steve and Matt Bourie, Steve created The American Casino Guide. They play all the multi-line low-payback games I would never play, so maybe that's why I like to watch them. Steve is the father and Matt is his son, Steve likes the low-volatility games while Matt likes the volatile ones, so their bickering is part of the schtick. They post their running win/loss and they're down about $14,000 so far this year.

 

They also have some old videos on the channel featuring the Wizard of Odds.

Edited on Mar 27, 2024 7:02am

The wife likes Jackpot Gents; it is like watching  trainwreck as they are terrible players as indicated by being down $14k in only 3 months.  They frequently discard winning hands in a quest for jackpots that never come up.


They say they hold the cards the way they do because they're maximizing the opportunity to get the mulitpliers on games like Ultimate X, I don't play those games so I have no idea if they play the correct strategy or not. I do agree with you that if they do get the multipliers, most of the time the next hand doesn't hit and the multipliers are wasted.

 

They're also in Florida and the paytables seem to usually be in the 98% range.

Edited on Mar 27, 2024 9:05am

Here are a couple of hilarious examples of how the slotmassacre guy plays.

 

Bonus Poker: AQJ109. Holds AQJ10.

Deuces Wild: J9874. Discards all five cards.

 

This idiot makes basic errors like this all the time, and I calculate that those blunders reduce his EV by about 1%, as they're so frequent. And he's playing anywhere from $100-$500 a hand, so those errors are horribly costly.

 

And there is no bloody way that he's playing with his own money or that his play is even genuine. He would be losing over $250,000 a month if his play was real.

 

The Bourie chaps, in contrast, probably are playing with their own money, and posting their experiences for entertainment, or maybe in an attempt to obtain followers to eventually make money, or something. But unless they're playing Ultimate X or other multiplier games at one specific location, they're fighting an uphill battle against 97% and 98% return games, and from what you guys say, playing them badly as well.

 

Pity that there aren't any YouTube channels showing the best VP plays by a skilled player. But the casinos would never let such a channel be filmed. It's telling that they allow the above guys free access to film.

Originally posted by: David Miller

    Just remember that the above condemnations are coming from a disgruntled, self anointed, perfect playing 25 cent video poker player who criticizes every one who does not play 100% perfect video poker 100% of the time. His proclamations concerning whether another is playing with their "own money" and his unfounded declaration about the amount of loss that another is incurring are stated without any provable facts. The one glaring thing Lewis also conveniently excludes from his rant is the fact that Slotmassacre clearly states and admits in every video he posts that he does not play 100% perfect play video poker. 


And the above comments come from an election denier who screams at and calls a liar anyone who disagrees with him. He also plays video poker poorly, by his own admission, even though he's aware of the proper strategies. Every time he goes to Vegas, he gets crushed, then he comes back here and screams at everybody. Not a worthwhile human being. 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

And the above comments come from an election denier who screams at and calls a liar anyone who disagrees with him. He also plays video poker poorly, by his own admission, even though he's aware of the proper strategies. Every time he goes to Vegas, he gets crushed, then he comes back here and screams at everybody. Not a worthwhile human being. 


     HaHaHaHaHa! -  I ONLY refer to "someone" a liar when they lie - as you have done here multiple times. (1) -  I have never said I play video poker "poorly' -  another lie from Lewis. (2) - Saying that I get "crushed" every time I visit Vegas is another lie. (3) When I return from my Vegas visits, I never have "screamed" at any/every body. In the above post, by Lying Lewis, he has demonstrated his prediliction to lying multiple times. Makes one wonder just who is the "worthwhile human being" - one need not wonder for long...

Originally posted by: David Miller

     HaHaHaHaHa! -  I ONLY refer to "someone" a liar when they lie - as you have done here multiple times. (1) -  I have never said I play video poker "poorly' -  another lie from Lewis. (2) - Saying that I get "crushed" every time I visit Vegas is another lie. (3) When I return from my Vegas visits, I never have "screamed" at any/every body. In the above post, by Lying Lewis, he has demonstrated his prediliction to lying multiple times. Makes one wonder just who is the "worthwhile human being" - one need not wonder for long...


Thanks for proving my point!

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Thanks for proving my point!


   What point did I prove? The highlighting of words boldly is not "screaming" - it is the way to show emphasis. When done in reference to your non stop lying the bold print allows the lies you spew to be clearly noticable. 

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