VP payouts ?

So we are talking about when to switch games when playinfg VP.  Does it matter ? Is the RNG the same for all games, or different.  If I switch from bonus poker to double double is the RNG different for each game

I believe it's the same RNG; all the RNG does is pick the cards to deal. Switching doesn't do anything in terms of your potential return.

 

My wife will switch machines when things aren't going well, but I stay and play whatever machine I'm on. 

Edited on Jan 10, 2026 7:53am

So one RNG for BP DDB DW no matter if it is single line or triple play or 10 play.  No matter if you are playing nickels , quarters or dollars.  Playing ultimate x or super times, nothing matters because it is the exact same RNG for every machine in the casino. The only thing that changes is the paytable.  Do we know for sure ?

Do you understand what the RNG does? It's a Random Number Generator. I am not a computer programmer or expert, but the RNG just picks the cards. 

 

My rudimentary understanding of how it works is that the RNG continuously cycles through the numbers 1 to 52, and when you push the button, it spits out 5 numbers. Those 5 numbers correspond to 5 cards; let's say the RNG chooses 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Those numbers might be 1= ace of hearts, 2= 2 of hearts, 3= 3 of hearts, 4= 4 of hearts, and 5 = 5 of hearts. Now you have a straight flush, the pay table determines how much you're paid. So the RNG doesn't care if you're playing JoB or DDB, it's still a straight flush.

 

The game you're playing determines the payouts. 4 Aces in JoB, you get 125 credits; 4 Aces in DDB you get 800 credits. 

 

Each machine has its own RNG built in; it doesn't matter because it's a RANDOM number generator, it doesn't remember what happened before; it just spits out the numbers. Whether you play Ultimate X or Super Times Pay doesn't matter to the RNG; it can matter to you because of the different rules of each game. 

 

Think of it this way, you have a standard 52-card deck of playing cards, do you change the deck to play poker or bridge? No. Does it matter to the players the rules you're playing by? Yes.

 

Edited on Jan 10, 2026 9:19am

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

So we are talking about when to switch games when playinfg VP.  Does it matter ? Is the RNG the same for all games, or different.  If I switch from bonus poker to double double is the RNG different for each game


The RNG used may differ slightly from one brand of machine to another, or from an older machine to a newer one. But their effect and function is the same.

 

A given machine will only use one RNG for all games and all denoms.

 

Switching games doesn't matter. I think the reason that tactic is so prevalent among gamblers is that you have no way of going back in time and NOT switching and comparing the results, so then confirmation bias kicks in: I switched and I hit a royal, so obviously, it worked!!!!

 

Uh uh.

 

There's another reason why the pseudo-RNG (humanity has not yet invented a true RNG) can be relied on to produce truly random results. There's an army of people out there trying to  beat the casinos, and a lot of them are computer nerds looking for weaknesses to exploit. The casinos have every incentive to make their games as truly random as possible.

 

One guy managed to detect a weakness in video keno games and sought to exploit it. Unfortunately for him, he assembled a team of idiots to do so. They were caught and are now at the bottom of Lake Mead.

 

 

So if this is the case, and over time the odds are what they are.  If you are playing bonus for hours and have not hit  quad aces, or 2s for example. Would it be wise to switch to DDB or DW thinking that since those high hands have not hit on that machine, that they are due to come up 

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

So one RNG for BP DDB DW no matter if it is single line or triple play or 10 play.  No matter if you are playing nickels , quarters or dollars.  Playing ultimate x or super times, nothing matters because it is the exact same RNG for every machine in the casino. The only thing that changes is the paytable.  Do we know for sure ?


One RNG per machine.....so it doesn't matter what game you are playing, it uses the same RNG.  A different machine has a different RNG, they are not linked or the same.  Each one is different, and will come up with different cards each time. 

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

So if this is the case, and over time the odds are what they are.  If you are playing bonus for hours and have not hit  quad aces, or 2s for example. Would it be wise to switch to DDB or DW thinking that since those high hands have not hit on that machine, that they are due to come up 


Nope.....it's just how the cards come up each random hand.   You could play 5 hands of each game and transfer back and forth between them, and it won't matter.    

So there is no program for VP.  Just the RNG that brings up the cards and the paytables.  What about keno?  Is it just a RNG with 80 numbers and no program as well 

I would think there has to be some change between games, as all games do not use the same deck i.e. Joker Poker.

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