Healthcare law exemption list

Approved Exemption list

Lot of unions here particularly bama's favorite union -SEIU.

If this law is such a great deal why are there over 200 exemptions?

30 million people will be added to the insurance pool under the new law..and so will these 1.5 million people in one year's time.

How many people get added to the insurance pool in the plan you want to revert back to? You know - the one that borrows 500 billion from China to hand out drugs to Fortune 500 Companies....

"30 million people will be added to the insurance pool under the new law..and so will these 1.5 million people in one year's time. "

But if the plan is so great why does the seiu (one of it's major supporters) among others need an exemption? Shouldn't they be rushing to take advantage of it's provisions? Perhaps they read the bill & found they don't like it

Or perhaps the full benefits of the bill are implemented over a period of time...as are its members...as is the seiu.

If your plan is so great how come it covers 30 million fewer people at a cost of 500 billion more than the new law?

"If your plan is so great how come it covers 30 million fewer people at a cost of 500 billion more than the new law"

Still trotting out the cbo estimate which is based on numbers vice president pelosi supplied them.

The savings depend on a number of assumptions that are never going to happen

1) All entitlement programs cost more than anticipated - see medicare liability

2) All entitlement programs overestimate the revenue (which in this case may even be unconstitutional)

3) This is based on a 10 year projection using 10 years of revenue but only 6 years of costs. Once the program extends past 10 years it becomes a loser

4) It is dependent on the 25% cut in medical reimbursements in Medicare which has already been deferred twice already

5) Companies such as AT&T & Caterpillar have indicated they would rather pay the $2,000 penalty & have employees go on the subsidized plan, thus putting more people in these programs & increasing costs.

6) The bill assumes young employees will opt into these plans increasing the premium revenue; when in fact they may roll the dice and stay out of the plans until necessary.

7) cbo estimates excludes the increase in fed employees to manage this program

8) cbo also allows double counting of medicare savings, by saying the program will save money on medicare and at the same time reduces the cost of obamacare. These are 2 different programs & you can only save the money in one place

9) It does not factor in the increased cost to the already cash strapped states for increased Medicaid expenses which is estimated in the hundreds of billions.

I dont need the CBO to examine the funding measures of the UNFUNDED 500 BILLION DOLLAR prescription drug plan you support we revert back to...along with the UNFUNDED 50 BILLION in tax dollars for emergency room care for the uninsured. There aren't any funding measures for them to consider..

When you find a single dollar of funding for the old law you support then you might be in a position to nit pick at the funding for the new law.

I never said I supported that law & you ar dancing around everything else

Oh, you most certainly have. Repealing the new healthcare law brings us right back to a 1/2 trillion dollar drug program without a single dollar of funding. I'm sorry if the truth hurts. You dont have to like that aspect of the old program but that is exactly what you support by supporting repeal of the new law.

There are plenty of elements in the new law I don't like - but I dont pretend they dont exist simply because I dont like them.

If Obamacare is such a great plan......how come Obama doesn't come under it? I love when they make one set of laws for us, and another set of laws for themselves. PJ, if this doesn't tip you off that it doesn't pass the smell test, then nothing will.