Healthcare law exemption list

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Originally posted by: lvfritz
If Obamacare is such a great plan......how come Obama doesn't come under it? I love when they make one set of laws for themselves, and another set of laws for themselves. PJ, if this doesn't tip you off that it doesn't pass the smell test, then nothing will.


The new plan is modeled precisely after the one Obama and Congress get ... certainly much more so than the old plan....the only difference is that Obama gets to choose a public option from the list of providers in his exchange- something not in the new bill for us and something I'm 100% positive you do not support.

It comes as no surprise that Obama likes being in his government-run-Communist plan.... but you might be concerned that almost all Republicans in Congress like it too - probably why they first proposed it to the rest of us 15 years ago.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
I dont need the CBO to examine the funding measures of the UNFUNDED 500 BILLION DOLLAR prescription drug plan you support we revert back to...along with the UNFUNDED 50 BILLION in tax dollars for emergency room care for the uninsured. There aren't any funding measures for them to consider..

When you find a single dollar of funding for the old law you support then you might be in a position to nit pick at the funding for the new law.


Prescription is still unfunded. But in any case your solution to handling a cost that is unfunded is to pass a bigger unfunded bill?

Where did $50b come from? No matter what the number is, it is to be paid by Medicaid which is funded by the states which are already broke, without factoring in this bill.
We are moving towards a "European" style healthcare and they are moving to our previous healthcare

Britain changes healthcare
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Originally posted by: hoops2
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
I dont need the CBO to examine the funding measures of the UNFUNDED 500 BILLION DOLLAR prescription drug plan you support we revert back to...along with the UNFUNDED 50 BILLION in tax dollars for emergency room care for the uninsured. There aren't any funding measures for them to consider..

When you find a single dollar of funding for the old law you support then you might be in a position to nit pick at the funding for the new law.


Prescription is still unfunded. But in any case your solution to handling a cost that is unfunded is to pass a bigger unfunded bill?

Where did $50b come from? No matter what the number is, it is to be paid by Medicaid which is funded by the states which are already broke, without factoring in this bill.


Well I guess it depends who you get your information from, doesn't it? If you choose to believe the non-partisan CBO the current law is funded...if you listen to Republican pundits who openly brag they dont even know what is in the "monstrous 2000 page bill" then it is not funded.

What is not open for debate is the complete lack of funding for the prescription drug program you support we revert back to...along with the pool of 30 million uninsured people in our emergency rooms. Republicans didn't pay for them then - they are not offering to pay for them now. And that doesn't seem to bother you much.





"Well I guess it depends who you get your information from, doesn't it? If you choose to believe the non-partisan CBO the current law is funded..' - to truly assess the cost of a program you have to include all costs & I detailed 9 factors that the cbo did not factor in; so the bill is really a loser

"What is not open for debate is the complete lack of funding for the prescription drug program you support we revert back to".. - Please stop including me as supporting this bill. By the way gore & kennedy brought up this situation & Bush got sucked into it

"along with the pool of 30 million uninsured people in our emergency rooms. " 26 million emergency room visits nationwide per year; most of them by people with insurance & in almost every case a legitimate visit; so your 30m number is wrong

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Originally posted by: szelisk
We are moving towards a "European" style healthcare and they are moving to our previous healthcare

Britain changes healthcare
Both the healthcare law and the single payer system that us libruls advocate has little in common with the British system. If you're going to be honest (?!?), compare single payer to the systems in France, Canada, Germany, and... to Medicare!
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Originally posted by: hoops2
- Please stop including me as supporting this bill.


OK. From now on we'll pretend that any cost associatted to the healthcare system you support can be ignored on the basis of you not liking it.

I'll do the same thing. Deal? I'll subtract the annual taxpayer-funded 20 billion in profit from private health insurance companies in the new law ....because I dont like that provision. So I just saved taxpayers 200 Billion over the next decade. Sweet !
"Both the healthcare law and the single payer system that us libruls advocate has little in common with the British system. If you're going to be honest (?!?), compare single payer to the systems in France, Canada, Germany, and... to Medicare!"

Medicare is broke and I suspect the others are also

"OK. From now on we'll pretend that any cost associatted to the healthcare system you support can be ignored on the basis of you not liking it"

To clarify, prescription drugs needs to be part of the do over much like obamacare. is your solution to a bad entitlement is to pass a worse entitlement?
Fork, your right canada, germany health care is so much better.

John Stossel 20/20 Canada's Free health care
There are now reports that the exemption list is 700, which brings back the original question. If this law is so great why so many exemptions, including the seiu the bill's major supporter? This question has nothing to do with prescription drugs, the war or any other sidestep people can come up with.
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