Hiking on the Iran border?

Pistroh, your stuff gets dumber everytime you put something out. What do you know about muslims and how they live in the middle east, how they treat the women, how they treat non-muslims. Just where have you been in this world that makes you an expert on everything. Have you ever been in the military? I'm sorry, asked you that before and you never answered,? Have you ever been to a muslim country? Have you ever seen the inside if a Mosque. I'm sure you would like a mosque built next door to your house.

What have you ever done for your country? Did you know that woman cannot go into main part of the mosque. It is only for men. What do you have against women being equal to men? You know so little but act like you know everything.

By the way. In Saudi, women have to sit in the back seat of a car. Before the war, women in Afganistan couldn't go outside without a man with them. Women couldn't go to school.

If you had too, would you defend this country?

I forgot to mention, if you go to a muslim country you must act like a muslin during Ramadan. This means you can't in public, during day light hours, smoke a cigarette, chew gum, drink water, eat, etc. Even if you are not muslim, you have to act like a muslim.
Enjoy your mosque!

hoops,
I wasn't arguing that position. But there is talk in the US that says that. That's what I was referring to in "buzz". Gossip, if you will.

BTW my dislike is based on their interviews.

Backpacking all over Europe is a great youth experience. "Hiking" the Iran border is far from the same thing.

I find it hard to believe that anyone who grew up in the U.S. could defend or condone the lifestyle that Muslims exist under. I am glad and appreciative that I live here in the U.S. Right is right and wrong is wrong - no matter where you live.

I work and play soccer with several Muslims every day and can testify to the fact that they dont beat their wives, make them wear beekeeper outfits, or are members of Al Queada. Thats just something you learn when you take the time to meet the people behind the stereotypes. And I'm glad you mentioned the mosque in my backyard. I ride my bike by one almost every day. Somehow I've managed not to be attacked by a suicide bomber. Just lucky I guess. The fact that you paint all Muslims with one broad brush speaks eons about your disposition..thus my earlier comment.

Oh...And there are many people in the suppressed countries you speak of that wish to change the social injustices you speak of. Watch the news much lately? Does the phrase "Arab SPring" mean anything to you? I doubt you would meet anyone in this country that believes women should be submissive and second class citizens...except maybe Michelle Bachmann. PS - I dont condone Israel's discriminatory laws against Palestineans either but I tend not to hold that against my Jewish friend Simon who I also play soccer with.

Oh..and if you removed all of the American Workers from Saudi Arabia and other oil producing nations in that region you would bring oil production to a grinding halt and have $8 gasoline almost overnight. And You question the intelligence of my post. Classic.

And Oh again... please dont lecture me about how much conservatives despise Muslim countries after your kin spent the last eight years preaching about winning the hearts and minds of the Iraq people and freeing them from their dictator as being the real reason we flushed a trillion dollars there.

My objection to them is simple, they bear no responsibility for the consequences of their actions.

Anyone want to hazzard a guess as to how much this cost the US (talking money here). State Department alone had to dedicate numerous individuals and time to this problem which was not of our making. Does anyone here really think State doesnt have better things to do?

And in other circumstances such antics have caused others to have to put their life in peril all because they either didnt stop and think, felt somehow exempt from the way the real world operated, or thought they knew much better.

And this is not limited to any one country. Others have been arrested and charged overseas when they felt that warning signs about restricted installations didnt apply to them.

And finally, doesnt this in a way just perpetuate the image of the ugly American. The rules dont apply to us, we can hike where we want, we are Americans after all!

Sean Penn cut a personal check for $1 million each to get them out. Yeah right! Maybe I missed it, but who actually paid the ransom?

BCFahren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3bhqhHIfv4


Tonyrob

Their hike is the equivalent of going for a beach vacation in June 1944 in Normandy. It wasn't smart

Point taken and duly noted yet NO ONE HERE accused them of being smart.

I am in AA w/ a practicing Moslem for the last 14 years. He's a good guy- has 4 boys and a wife I've met and parents and tries to do the next right thing every day.
He was terrified we'd kick him out after 9/11 but AA practices tolerance..everyone is welcome. The 3rd tradition states "The only requirment for membership is a desire to stop drinking".
We can't make it any simplier than that.