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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Yes, Marc, more justices than not agreed that Freedom of Speech trumped canmpaign finance laws that previously blocked the PAC money that is now legal. That doesn't mean every Justice on the court agreed with that ruling. Justice Kagan's ruling was polar oppositte to Justice Stevens. Stevens based his ruling on the idea that corporations are in fact people. Kagan based her decision on the idea that corporations most certainly are not people. The majority rules and the decision is what it is - that doesn't mean all justices are equally responsible for it. And thats all I'm saying. I am not questioning legality - I am simply noting accountability.
When it comes time to vote for a president voters will ask if they want another Justice Kagan or another Justice Stevens on the bench....because as Citizens United proved those judges do not judge the same way.
- Oh...and regarding your comments about Citizens United not making much difference...yes, it most certainly does. It is all a question of scale and disclosure. For the first time campaign money raised directly by the RNC and DNC will be massively dwarfed by undisclosed and unlimited PAC money. For every ad you see Obama and Mitt put on the air you will see 3 from their respective PACS. The scale is much, much larger...and even Republicans now agree the results from Citizens United are an unmitigated disaster.
Originally posted by: pjstroh
Yes, Marc, more justices than not agreed that Freedom of Speech trumped canmpaign finance laws that previously blocked the PAC money that is now legal. That doesn't mean every Justice on the court agreed with that ruling. Justice Kagan's ruling was polar oppositte to Justice Stevens. Stevens based his ruling on the idea that corporations are in fact people. Kagan based her decision on the idea that corporations most certainly are not people. The majority rules and the decision is what it is - that doesn't mean all justices are equally responsible for it. And thats all I'm saying. I am not questioning legality - I am simply noting accountability.
When it comes time to vote for a president voters will ask if they want another Justice Kagan or another Justice Stevens on the bench....because as Citizens United proved those judges do not judge the same way.
- Oh...and regarding your comments about Citizens United not making much difference...yes, it most certainly does. It is all a question of scale and disclosure. For the first time campaign money raised directly by the RNC and DNC will be massively dwarfed by undisclosed and unlimited PAC money. For every ad you see Obama and Mitt put on the air you will see 3 from their respective PACS. The scale is much, much larger...and even Republicans now agree the results from Citizens United are an unmitigated disaster.
I would take Stevens any day!
