Raise your hand if you're Sure ! (POL)

I see. Its ok for you to presume Obama will run a strategy of "blame it on Bush" but I am not allowed to responsibly presume the positions of Republicans without being some kind of partisan hack. As usual, you try to position yourself to attack the thoughts of others without having to defend your own. Dr Milled is doing the same thing - demanding I give an opinion without offering up his/her own.

Alan hides behind his "old-fashioned background and positions"defense. The conservative CPAC conference is going on right now. Can you show me a single keynote speaker at that conference that supports raising taxes or regulating the free market? Or is it flagrantly irresponsible of me to presume the speakers at that conference will be running for president?

Dr, I say again - start a new thread and I'll post on it. Its not that hard. Really. Of course, you should have the courage to start by offering up your own opinion instead of deamnding other people give theirs.

It's not hard to predict that Democrats are likely to try to associate Republican candidates with Bush, Wars, Recession, Financial Panic....it worked last time It's not hard to predict that Republicans are likely to try and associate Obama with the spiraling deficit, debt, unemployment and maybe socialism.

What is more difficult to predict is who the Republican candidate will be...what is background is and what his platform will be. I'll just wait and see before I make my decision...

I'm not hiding behind anything. If you want to debate the qualifications of a candidate, then lay it out. Who are we talking about? Ron Paul? Donald Trump? Mitt Romney? What's his background? Is he a career politican? Show me his campaign platform and his plans and vision for the country..Don't just call him GB3 and think that's going to hold water.

Actually go ahead and just keep attacking your Bush Strawman. As a non-partisan, I don't vote in the Presidential primaries anyway. I'll let you politicos figure out who your candidates are going to be and then I'll weigh in on their qualifications...but since you seem to know so much about the plans of ANY Republican candidate; are we to assume that the Democrat's 2012 Campaign Slogan will be "We're Raising Your Taxes and Strangling Your Business?" Of course not. See how silly that is? Just like the republicans aren't going to be singing "Tax Cuts for the Wealthy!" "No Regulations...On Anything!".

Both parties create the sound bites to sway the masses and to prevent any kind of honest debate on the details. PJ often falls into that trap. I'll wait on debating the platfoms of the Presidential Nominees until the they actually have Nominees and platforms.

Oh...and kindly consider the first plank of my platform:

1. Everyone Work More and Work Smarter...Sleep Less.

Getting back to the original post, while the fundamentally stupid "Obama is a Muslim/socialist/terrorist" advocates are a minority in the focus group, and the Republican party for that matter, they are very active and frequently make up a majority in Republican primaries and caucuses.

The stupids were a majority of voters in the recent Nevada Republican senate primary, and Sharron - Second Amendment remedies - Angle is the only reason Harry Reid survived. The stupids made up a majority of voters in the Connecticut Republican senate primary, nominating "I'm not a witch," which is the only reason a Democrat won that seat as well. In Alaska, the morons nominated another Palin protege, but he lost in the general to the write-in Senator Murkowski, who, in the lame-duck session, became a more reliable Obama supporter than several Democratic senators.

Next, these idiots are going to try to oust the very popular Republican Olympia Snowe and Orin Hatch. And in open primary and caucus states, many liberals will be joining them to insure a right-wing radical win - of the Republican nomination that is. Go Sarah Palin, etc.!

Yeah...forkie's right. It's the same way the Democrat extremists hijack the Democrat primaries. Heck, according to the National Review Obama had the 'Most Liberal Voting Record' in the Senate in 2007 and John Kerry held that honor in 2004.

It makes it tough on us Independents when the major party extremist cronies keep nominating Communists and Fascists.

Yeah, PJ falls into that trap....

P.J.- If I start a new thread I will probably get many other responses- I am only interested in yours. If you tell me your thoughts about Obama then I'll tell you my thoughts about Obama.

Obviously my point was that the right-wing crazies were nominating folks who were UNELECTABLE. In that case alanleroy, using Obama as a counter-example is particularly dim.

There were lots of Democrats who could have defeated Bush in 04. Kerry wasn't one of them. Too bad the left-wing crazies nominated him...eh? As for Obama, I think even Kucinich might have beaten McCain. Obvioulsy sometimes the extremes can win...it takes a few things...1) Make people think you're really a moderate and you'll govern from the center. 2) Run against the ghosts of a lousy predecessor. No, you were right with your original assessment...but it applies to both parties. The hard cores vote in the Primaries. The chances of getting someone who really will govern from the center and appeal to the vast majority of Americans are dwindling. It should be obvious now that Obama's no Bill Clinton.