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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
Suck it up PJ. That's what happens when your guy's in power. I guess you've forgotten what it was like when it was Bush that was screwing up the country. Let me give you a hint "Everything was Bush's fault".


Yep. And on a thread where you blast me for engaging in political talking points instead of a constructive debate on the issues you seem to be ok with the other side doing that very thing. Sigh. Like I said...just another day on LVA.

I know. I'm really not ok with it. I'm just explaining it to you. I would regularly slam Bush for his complete lack of fiscal disipline. And now I will praise Obama for his promise to veto any bill with earmarks. But the bottom line is that constructive debate may lead to compromise and partisans aren't willing to do that. That's why it seems like I'm the only one in the world who actually supports the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations. If you're really interested in moving the country forward and moving away from the political talking points join me in the NP camp.

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...That's why it seems like I'm the only one in the world who actually supports the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations...

Trust me, my friend. You're not the only one in the world.



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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...That's why it seems like I'm the only one in the world who actually supports the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations...

Trust me, my friend. You're not the only one in the world.

Sorry....but it seems like clcjim and I are are the only ones in the world who actually support the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations.

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...That's why it seems like I'm the only one in the world who actually supports the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations...

Trust me, my friend. You're not the only one in the world.

Sorry....but it seems like clcjim and I are are the only ones in the world who actually support the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations.
Since the Simpson/Bowles commission failed, and never was able to release official recommendations, alanleroy is maintaining his usual record of erroneous statements.


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Originally posted by: forkush
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...That's why it seems like I'm the only one in the world who actually supports the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations...

Trust me, my friend. You're not the only one in the world.

Sorry....but it seems like clcjim and I are are the only ones in the world who actually support the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations.
Since the Simpson/Bowles commission failed, and never was able to release official recommendations, alanleroy is maintaining his usual record of erroneous statements.

Failed to gain a super majority of 14 of 18 members. A report was released on December 1,2010. I support that report. So did 11 of 18 members of the commission. So does clcjim. Forkush continues his partisan hack ways. Sun rises.

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Originally posted by: drmilled
P.J.- If I start a new thread I will probably get many other responses- I am only interested in yours. If you tell me your thoughts about Obama then I'll tell you my thoughts about Obama.


Oh Dear, DrMilled, look at what you've unleashed. This is why you should have started another thread.... BTW - I believe you have not fullfilled your end of the bargain thus far....




P.J - Are we having fun yet? Well you could be right about starting another thread. I did not realize that your response to me would get everyone fired up. I am working on "my part of the bargain"- I am just not sure if I will be able to stand the heat from those who have toasted you and each other.
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkush
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...That's why it seems like I'm the only one in the world who actually supports the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations...

Trust me, my friend. You're not the only one in the world.

Sorry....but it seems like clcjim and I are are the only ones in the world who actually support the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations.
Since the Simpson/Bowles commission failed, and never was able to release official recommendations, alanleroy is maintaining his usual record of erroneous statements.

Failed to gain a super majority of 14 of 18 members...
The commission NEVER held a final vote and NEVER issued a final report. So those who aspire to debate with more integrity than alanleroy - and who wouldn't? - should refrain from claiming that the commission endorsed anything whatsoever.
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Originally posted by: forkush
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkush
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...That's why it seems like I'm the only one in the world who actually supports the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations...

Trust me, my friend. You're not the only one in the world.

Sorry....but it seems like clcjim and I are are the only ones in the world who actually support the bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations.
Since the Simpson/Bowles commission failed, and never was able to release official recommendations, alanleroy is maintaining his usual record of erroneous statements.

Failed to gain a super majority of 14 of 18 members...
The commission NEVER held a final vote and NEVER issued a final report. So those who aspire to debate with more integrity than alanleroy - and who wouldn't? - should refrain from claiming that the commission endorsed anything whatsoever.


Perhaps Forkush needs reading lessons...There is a report. It was released by Alan Simpson (R) and Erskin Bowles (D) leaders of the Bipartisan Commission. I referred to it as "The bipartisan Simpson/Bowles debt reduction recommendations".

I support the recommendations of that report as did 11 of 18 committee members. Did I say "The commission endorsed or formally approved" anything? No. I said there was a released report and I support it. I'm willing to debate it. All fokush cares to do is bury it, label it 'failed' and accuse anyone who supports it of lacking itegrity. Well eat my grits.

So forkush attacks my 'integrity' accuses me of 'erroneous statements'. He would like to pretend that the report does not exist becuase it is not 'formally approved'. Actually it seems forkush and his ilk would prefer just to sling mud at those that truly look for bipartisan solutions.

If anyone's interested and wants to see if such a report really exists...click the below link. Then you'll see who lacks integrity.

Moment of Truth Report
On 10 November 2010 Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles released to the public a draft co-chairmen's report which had been sent to the other members of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility & Reform
https://www.fiscalcommission.gov/sites/fiscalcommission.gov/files/documents/CoChair_Draft.pdf

On 1 December 2010 the Commission issued to the public their report entitled "The Moment of Truth"
https://www.fiscalcommission.gov/sites/fiscalcommission.gov/files/documents/TheMomentofTruth12_1_2010.pdf

Please note both reports are from the Commissions official government website.

Seems was posting at same time as Alan Leroy, my apologies.
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