Raise your hand if you're Sure ! (POL)

Ask Paul Ryan. Thats where the budget is constitutionally appropriatted. SO far they haven;t done much except try to redefine abortion.

"Ask Paul Ryan. Thats where the budget is constitutionally appropriatted. SO far they haven;t done much except try to redefine abortion. "

bama submitted a budget on Monday

NOT according to the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. They announced the vote would be taken on 12/3/10 at 9:30 AM, and then canceled it because it was going to fail. There is NO vote tally whatsoever on their entire website.

And of course you finally admit that this report was NOT adopted by the commission, right? So now that you know, attributing it to the entire commission is a tad dishonest.

1. Please explain what "Vote" Jan Simpson is referring to.
2. Please point to anywhere in this thread where I claimed the Report was "adopted" by the commission or where I attribute it to the "Entire" commission. You know...with quotes...These things "". I specifically stated the report failed to obtain a super majority. I even pointed out 3 democrats and 3 republicans voted against it.
3. I quote several sources including your very own "NPR" claiming a vote was held...there are actually hundreds more.

Actually, I'm done responding to you. I point out facts. I link to a report. I link to valid news sources and an actual commission member who claims she voted against the report. You question my integrity and call me dishonest. You're obvioiusly just in here to sling mud at me personally. I responded in kind a couple of times. That was beneath me and I'm sorry for that.

On 31 January the Fiscal Commission released its report "Member Statements for Final Commission Report" at the request of Simpson and Bowles. In it each of the members give a statement of support or non-support of the Chairmen's document "Moments in Truth" as well as their comments on that document. Only Senator Crapo, R-Idaho, declined to provide either his statement of support or non support or any discussion on the document.
https://www.fiscalcommission.gov/sites/fiscalcommission.gov/files/documents/MemberStatements.pdf

The president's budget has no constitutional weighting. What a pisser. That means your leadership will have to leave you alone in the peanut gallery and actually govern. They seem to be struggling in their new role. Thats what happens when you spend two years crying about the ideas of others instead of having some of your own.

The budget originates with the president.

Congressional consideration of the federal budget begins once the President of the United States submits a budget request, which is formulated over a period of months with the assistance of the Office of Management and Budget, the largest office within the Executive Office of the President. The budget request includes funding requests for all federal executive departments and independent agencies.

The President submits the budget request each year to Congress for the following fiscal year, as required by the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921. Current law (31 U.S.C. 1105(a) requires the President to submit a budget no earlier than the first Monday in January, and no later than the first Monday in February. Typically, Presidents submit budgets on the first Monday in February.

The President's budget request constitutes an extensive proposal of the administration's intended spending and revenue plans for the following fiscal year. The budget proposal includes volumes of supporting information intended to persuade Congress of the necessity and value of the budget provisions. In addition, each federal executive department and independent agency provides additional detail and supporting documentation to Congress on its own funding requests

And again - The presidents budget has no constituional weighting whatsoever. The House has the power of the purse and the constitutional responsibility to build a budget. And while Paul Ryan was crying about the president's budget all week he issued the blueprint for his own - AND IT DOES NOT BECOME CASH FLOW POSITVE UNTIL 2060.

For 2 years your blood pressure has been boiling at the leadership of President Obama...and now that your party has taken over the budgeting process you prefer that same president lead the way instead of looking to the leaders of your party. I dont blame you. You'll find the other side of the aisle actually has ideas instead of a bunch of sour grapes.

Actually, I questioned your integrity when you referred to the "Simpson/Bowles recommendations" as if they had actually adopted by the Simpson/Bowles commission. Even you now admit that they hadn't.

On the much smaller issue that you jumped on as a distraction, many in the mainstream press get things wrong all the time - usually out of laziness. George H.W. Bush was never amazed to see a commonplace supermarket scanner, and Gore never claimed to have invented the internet.

The deficit commission never held an official vote. Some of us care about accuracy. Then there's you.

P.J.- In response to your response to me;- I feel that Obama barely grades out at D- for me. His platform of "change you can believe in" is just another catch phrase in a long line of catch phrases that many of our past Presidents have used to get elected. He and Clinton have a lot in common- windbags that produced nothing but hot air while doing their dirty deeds, which are not in the best interest of the common man. Bailouts to the wealthy and Obama care (yeah sure). He is more interested in vacationing, duffing at golf, and having photo ops with athletes - while the White House sits void of a leader for those who believed and voted for him. Currently he seems more concerned about repairing his pathetic image as he (and his staff) prepare for his re election attempt. At a time when the country needs real leadership and resolutions to current problems you can find him in Hawaii, smiling away. Take a tele prompter away from him and he is just a wanna be high school student trying to make the debate team. Many who have commented here refer to all kinds of reports, documents, etc. to reinforce their opinion of him and his administration. Common sense states the obvious - he has failed to live up to his promises and the platform upon which he ran for President. It seems the country sits on the edge of their collective chairs waiting for him to provide the leadership that he promised. In the end, he appears more concerned about looking Presidential than being a President. He is a mistake that hopefully will be put to rest come election day. Meanwhile, we can hope that his socialistic agenda does not prevail - the country is running out of the money that other hard working, tax paying people have provided for those who contribute nothing but more crime and babies while demanding more, more more.I dislike him and those of his ilk who talk a good game but only take care of their selves while ignoring the job they were elected to do. I say vote him, the Senate and all of those in the House out and begin again with a clean slate. These selfish cretins have governed our country in to the current mess we find ourselves today. Enough is enough. Get rid of this bum and the rest of the bums. Now, may the feeding frenzy begin upon my comments. I yield my soapbox.